What is instruction worth to you

[MadXX]

Dave I used to live in the apartments behind there (Riverwalk) so I know what you are talking about.  I was looking for a 7x16 dual axle with electric brakes.    

Then I looked at the cost of one of those things along with the fact I cant get a class V hitch for the S-10 and am now hunting for a 6x12/6x14 single axle.  Something I can cram 3 bikes and some tools in If I want.  Side door = must for ventalation otherwise they turn into an oven.  I also need a class IV hitch and acessesories for the truck.

Am looking at purchasing later this year/ early next year.  I gotta buy the wife an iron filter/RO system for the house, then the checkbook is mine.  ;D

[GSXR RACER MIKE]

Just tell me what you want...

I work at that goofy trailer place across from Jim's Bug Center on St Paul and Prairie...  funny hours though.

     Hey Dave, I MAY be selling my trailer after the season ends and then I will most likely order a new one after selling mine. Maybe I could go thru you and keep my money within the motorcycle roadracing family? ;D

     I know from experience that you don't order a trailer during the silly season starting around February unless you want to wait forever and possibly end up with a trailer that isn't quite what you ordered due to them hurrying! (I learned about that one the hard way!) Isn't there a similar silly season starting around this time of the year because of the snowmobile trailer orders? If so, when does it usually slow up for the manufacturers, I would much rather have them taking their time building my trailer than being rushed!

     What brands do you deal with? What brand(s) would you suggest for me, based on what I have now? I am leaning toward a Pace, which is what I originally wanted, but they wouldn't build the combination I wanted before!? If they would do it now I would be quite interested in going thru them, if/when I sell mine. With mine being a wedge-nose car hauler and having front and rear ramps I may be able to sell it to somebody wanting it for hauling 4 snowmobiles and/or cars, or whatever? Either way I got an appraisal and it's still worth about 3/4 of what I bought it for and they said it should sell fairly easily in this region of the country.

     On the topic of instruction, I like the more personalized approach you have suggested. Since I am PLANING on applying myself next season, and not just showing up and slow pokin' around, I would be very interested in that type of learning atmosphere. (This time I promise I will make it to your school!  ;))

[Super Dave]

Then I looked at the cost of one of those things along with the fact I cant get a class V hitch for the S-10 and am now hunting for a 6x12/6x14 single axle.  Something I can cram 3 bikes and some tools in If I want.  Side door = must for ventalation otherwise they turn into an oven.  I also need a class IV hitch and acessesories for the truck.

When you're ready...  no problem.

The tandem would have beat your S10 to death.  6x14's are albatrosses...you'd never sell it as a single axle.  6x12 would be the way to go.  When your ready, give yourself about ten weeks of leaway...we do hitches too.

[Super Dave]

    What brands do you deal with? What brand(s) would you suggest for me, based on what I have now? I am leaning toward a Pace, which is what I originally wanted, but they wouldn't build the combination I wanted before!? If they would do it now I would be quite interested in going thru them, if/when I sell mine. With mine being a wedge-nose car hauler and having front and rear ramps I may be able to sell it to somebody wanting it for hauling 4 snowmobiles and/or cars, or whatever? Either way I got an appraisal and it's still worth about 3/4 of what I bought it for and they said it should sell fairly easily in this region of the country.

     On the topic of instruction, I like the more personalized approach you have suggested. Since I am PLANING on applying myself next season, and not just showing up and slow pokin' around, I would be very interested in that type of learning atmosphere. (This time I promise I will make it to your school!  ;))

Pace is awesome.  Tell me what you want, we can go from there.

Mike, I'll take care of you...want me to "hold on" to your enrollment from September?

[MadXX]

whats the price range I would be looking at for each? (hitch and trailer)  I need to budget for it.

[GSXR RACER MIKE]

Mike, I'll take care of you...want me to "hold on" to your enrollment from September?

     I don't expect you to do that, but that would be quite exceptional of you if you did!  :) I do plan on attending your school in the future, how about an 8 student class at Barber in the spring '04?  ;D ;D ;D That place ROCKS!  J/K, I would imagine that wouldn't even be an option due to the demand that I would guess there will be for that track, how far away it is, and rental costs, but ya can't blame a guy for dreamin'! (though I would gladly split transportation costs with you if ya wanted a travelin' buddy  ;D). You could even put it mid-week before or after the Bike Week events down at Daytona. Now that would be a Hell of a kick off to the season!

     Ok, I stopped dreaming now, but I am really looking forward to next year and getting my butt back in gear!

     I don't know if I am going to go to Gateway this weekend or not, I am starting to get a guilty concious about the points situation. I am thinking that all I have to do is not show up for this Twin Sprint weekend and some people more deserving than myself (this year) could then have these championships? Maybe I will see you down there this weekend, or maybe not, we'll see? Looks like it's going to rain both days also, that may make the decision for me! (thinking about concrete walls!  :-/)

[Super Dave]

whats the price range I would be looking at for each? (hitch and trailer)  I need to budget for it.

Hitch?  Well, that would be less than $200, but I don't have any books here at home, so I can't tell you exactly.

Trailer?  Same kind of deal.  Figure a 6x12, side door, ramp door, dome light, roof vent, you choose the color...around $3000 even...tosion axle, radial tires, good lights, etc.  It would be called a Pace American Cargo Sport.

Mike, I was wondering about the weather.  Spooks me a bit too.  Hope that Mitch has rains.

[MadXX]

ok. I'll probably be getting the hitch sooner than later.  You guys do nerf bars too? its the wife's truck and she wants some.  :P  I'm able to buy these items whenever.

[Super Dave]

We can get 'em, I believe...

[MadXX]

good deal.  let me know when is a good time to contact you and a number and I'll give you a call to set this up.

I'll have to wait on the trailer.  First item on the list is my leathers, then a trailer.

[Super Dave]

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[lfg929]

Getting us back on topic here...

I have paid, and will continue to pay $400 for *good* instruction. Dave and I have been trading emails for some time about personalized instruction. The problems I have had is that the last 2 times I have paid for an instructional class (the last one being an actual 2-day racing school) it did me little good. Don't get me wrong, the classes were actually excellent for just about everyone else and the student-to-instructor ratio was very low (2 stundents per instructor at the race school I attended). The problem was that I had done enough track days and watched enough people that I had developed fairly good speed and believe I have fairly good habits. I was pretty much the fastest person out on the track outside of the instructors. What I got for my last 2 schools was "you look good out there...keep it up!" That was *not* worth $400.

Lets face it, everyone still has things to learn regardless of their skill level. The top pros probably learn something every time they go out. Therefore, when I sign up for a school there should still be lots of things that the instructors can work on with me. It may not be the normal school type stuff (body positioning, lines, etc), but if it is a good school geared towards giving every student, regardless of skill level, new and valuable information then I would think that school would do well and people would continue to shell out cash for it.

From what I have heard Dave puts on a very good school and in a few weeks I plan to hold him to it. ;)

BTW, Dave, Monte wanted me to tell you that Bonnie is definitely in. He can cut you a company check day of to pay for it. Contact me via email if you want to discuss further (hopefully you received my FAX and we are set to go).