Another class?

[GAMEDIC]

yes i can pre enter...sometimes...but i'm talking about guys that pre enter for several if not all the races up front....and they are the ones who get front spot...i'm just saying that , that is no way to grid a race...even if you took somone's lap times from the year before it would be better than gridding by entry... i mean CCS could do what i said..or even what you said and go with times to use as gridding First...then for the people that maybe were not there or something then go to entry...but doing it by whoever enters first is just not the way to do it..IMHO
it doesn't reward someone for turning good lap times...it rewards them for having the money before someone else... as for using the times from the morning session...do you really think CCS is capable of taking times from everyone that morning and having grids posted from that by race time?...lol

[GSXR RACER MIKE]

     Qualifying would definately put the fastest guys at the front of the grid, but on the other hand it would probably slow down the people preparing the grids each day because they couldn't finalize the grids until all practice sessions were completed.

     Even though grid position being determined by entry order may not seem fair, it is available to everyone equally. I use to always be pre-entered for the current event and the next 2 and I was rarely not on the front row. It's just a matter of setting aside money for at least 1 event ahead of the current 1 and you will almost always have a decent grid position (1st, 2nd, or 3rd row at worst).

[GAMEDIC]

i know...but even though it is there for everyone. most people including myself do not have that extra money to do that in advance...alot of the time i don't have all the money i need till that week before the event...but in any case...you know CCS is not going to change anything just because we "the racers" say something....it's their way only...which is really sad :(

[GSXR RACER MIKE]

     I don't want to lecture anyone about debt, but I have been in the depths of credit Hell in the past and have alot of knowledge about what it's like and the warning signs that appear before implossion of all your liquid cash. If you truely are already in this situation with lack of money for racing, you may want to step back and re-evaluate your situation. The paycheck to paycheck lifestyle is very dangerous and not too far away from credit Hell, so be careful. I fell into the trap when I had a series of unexpected expenses and had no extra money to fall back on.
     Racing is very addictive, but just don't let yourself get too buried. If you can't afford to get a race or two ahead, you might want to think about that.

[GAMEDIC]

It's not that....it deciding where to put the money... i mena as you may or may not know...i own a motorcycle accessories store and there are still things that are being done as we are growing and just got into a new building...just things like that... it's not always that i don't have the money....it;s wondering if something is going to come up between that time and the race weekend...

[GSXR RACER MIKE]

but in any case...you know CCS is not going to change anything just because we "the racers" say something....it's their way only...which is really sad :(

     Actually CCS changed the schedule at MAM this weekend, and I think it was because of those of us here that were voicing concern about the schedule. I was actually quite suprised about that when I was at registration, and I was glad to see that CCS addressed a concern in a fair way.

[GAMEDIC]

    Actually CCS changed the schedule at MAM this weekend, and I think it was because of those of us here that were voicing concern about the schedule. I was actually quite suprised about that when I was at registration, and I was glad to see that CCS addressed a concern in a fair way.

Well see if you can get them to do that in the SE  ;D

[EX#996]

    Actually CCS changed the schedule at MAM this weekend, and I think it was because of those of us here that were voicing concern about the schedule. I was actually quite suprised about that when I was at registration, and I was glad to see that CCS addressed a concern in a fair way.

CCS did a great job in changing the schedule for us.  Hopefully they will do the same in Topeka.  I talked with Phil the referee and he stated that he didn't see why they wouldn't do it for that weekend also.

Dawn   ;)

PS  For those who weren't there, for the F-USA classes that duplicate the CCS class (like Thunderbike), they didn't make us run the F-USA class but instead added another race title "CCS trophy class only."  It made my day.

[K3 Chris Onwiler]

   
     Even though grid position being determined by entry order may not seem fair, it is available to everyone equally. I use to always be pre-entered for the current event and the next 2 and I was rarely not on the front row. It's just a matter of setting aside money for at least 1 event ahead of the current 1 and you will almost always have a decent grid position (1st, 2nd, or 3rd row at worst).

This is absolutely true.  Complaining about not having the money is going to fall on deaf ears.  In this sport many of us race on skin tight budgets.  If you want to pre-enter, you will find a way.  Once you get one or two races ahead, it's like nothing has changed.  Every weekend you show up to regestration to pay, but your money is actually to pay for two events from now and you already have good starting position for today.  Like anything else, you just have to figure out how to play the rules to your advantage.  
Don't even think that qualifying times are a good idea.  The speed deferential in CCS is crazy.  Do you want beginners and guys who are 40 seconds to a full minute faster all trying to qualify during one of CCS's generous 8 minute, amateur all-skate practices?  (During a combined CCS/LP Day with street people in the mix as well?)  Ohhhh.  Don't get me started!!!

[sdiver68]

Except CCS didn't bother to comminuciate the cahnge to all of us  :(, so I missed the Sportbike race since I wasn't signed up.  I picked up another class so it won't hurt me in overall points, but it will in Sportbike.

[GSXR RACER MIKE]

Except CCS didn't bother to comminuciate the cahnge to all of us  :(, so I missed the Sportbike race since I wasn't signed up.  I picked up another class so it won't hurt me in overall points, but it will in Sportbike.

     I too almost didn't sign up for ULGP because I thought it was going to be a Sunday only FUSA class. Another racer at registration noticed it on the schedule and was talking to the CCS staff about it, after over-hearing that I added it even though I had already finished registering for the other classes I was running (a minute later and I would have already left registration and never heard that conversation).
     I went back and checked the CCS website and it still showed the original schedule, so this must have been a very last minute decision. I do think they should have put up some type of notice at registration concerning this, but ultimately it is our own responsibility to check the schedule at registration, so I can't really blame CCS for that (I just got lucky hearing about it, because I had not checked the schedule at registration either :-/).

[Eddie#200]

I will admit as a first year expert being lapped by some of the super fast guys can be a let down...  :'(

till till I start lapping slower experts... ;D

Get out there and you will see how quickly you pick up the pace.