HP vs. Weight: Help me settle a debate

[Super Dave]

I'm not afraid of crashing yours... ;D

[tigerblade]

I'm not afraid of crashing yours... ;D

I just ask that you lowside please.   ;)

[Super Dave]

But I'm so much better at going over the top. ;D

[lil_thorny]

this whole argument is ridiculous!!!
the more corner speed, the less time per lap. period.
weight shmate. HP., whatever! set-up set-up set-up.
that's what matters. handling. .25 sec per corner @
BHF=2.5-3sec per lap. stop fussen bout yer motors
and start working on the suspension. your bike will
thank you...then you can thank your sponsors.
Benj.

[EX#996]

But I'm so much better at going over the top. ;D

LOL!!!!

 ;D

[tigerblade]

this whole argument is ridiculous!!!
the more corner speed, the less time per lap. period.
weight shmate. HP., whatever! set-up set-up set-up.
that's what matters. handling. .25 sec per corner @
BHF=2.5-3sec per lap. stop fussen bout yer motors
and start working on the suspension. your bike will
thank you...then you can thank your sponsors.
Benj.

Suspension is already done on both bikes.   ;)

[OmniGLH]

this whole argument is ridiculous!!!
the more corner speed, the less time per lap. period.
weight shmate. HP., whatever! set-up set-up set-up.
that's what matters. handling. .25 sec per corner @
BHF=2.5-3sec per lap. stop fussen bout yer motors
and start working on the suspension. your bike will
thank you...then you can thank your sponsors.
Benj.

DITTO.

Benji we see eye to eye on this one.  Guys that blow $4k on a "SuperSport" motor, and whine the next weekend when they blow the damn thing up... when they should've spent it on suspension setup, etc...

But this is a whole other topic altogether.  HP means practically nothing on a roadrace course unless it's a serious HP track, like Road America.

DanO, riding my stock GSX-R750, went 18s at BHF last year.  So did I.  Then DanO hopped on his R6 (down a solid 25hp from the Gixxer) and went... 18s.  He and I are pretty close as far as rider ability is concerned.  HP means nothing.

Jim
"Stock right down to the exhaust can" Racing

[tigerblade]

 HP means nothing.

Again, that was my point.   ;)

[MightyDuc Racing]

I turned 1:24's at Jennings versus fast 600 AM's doing 1:22's with probably 20-40 more hp than me, while at the same time the SV riders with me ran neck and neck the whole time with 10-20 less hp.  I think it depends on the track as to whether hp matters.

[lil_thorny]

Tiger,
just because your suspension is "done", doesn't
mean that it is "dialed-in", track conditions, temp,
sunshine, etc,etc,etc.. they all have an effect on how the bike handles. period. HP often has a negative
effect on your bike's handling just ask any inline
Jap. liter rider. also... balls...Jimmy...now he's got
big balls.  ;D
Benji.