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Re: Should the GSXR565 (and similar bikes) be outlawed?
« Reply #165 on: February 18, 2015, 12:42:37 pm »
Your grids in Florida are growing with expensive Ducati's.  Grid growing with expensive bikes isn't good for the majority of the racers. 

I don't race GT or GP classes, but am still going fight that the 565 doesn't fit.  The 120hp duc hybrids fit better than 565s.

I don't have a problem with TC being GP rules.  The problem are the the bikes that fit in the class because of the GP ruling.
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Re: Should the GSXR565 (and similar bikes) be outlawed?
« Reply #166 on: February 18, 2015, 02:46:55 pm »
There are plenty of budget classes. LWSS, ULSB, even MWSS. We are talking about GT / GP Classes here.

Making the team challenge Superbike rules is a totally different discussion. I don't get why everyone is asking for changes but the formula clearly works....grids are strong and getting stronger.
I dont think allowing high dollar exotics in endurance helps the gtl grids. for each one you add probably lose as many or more that know they cant be competitive with true lightweight bike. I understand allowing them in gp classes but not endurance.
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Re: Should the GSXR565 (and similar bikes) be outlawed?
« Reply #167 on: February 19, 2015, 09:32:34 pm »
Nonsense. This is racing. Winning on a legal bike is winning. Period.

Besides, how many bikes are we worrying about here? 2? 3? The guys riding them are going to win no matter what they're on....

Who?  Names please.

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Re: Should the GSXR565 (and similar bikes) be outlawed?
« Reply #168 on: February 20, 2015, 11:28:24 pm »
I dont think allowing high dollar exotics in endurance helps the gtl grids. for each one you add probably lose as many or more that know they cant be competitive with true lightweight bike. I understand allowing them in gp classes but not endurance.

That hasn't proven to be true thus far.
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Re: Should the GSXR565 (and similar bikes) be outlawed?
« Reply #169 on: February 20, 2015, 11:32:51 pm »
Your grids in Florida are growing with expensive Ducati's.  Grid growing with expensive bikes isn't good for the majority of the racers. 

I don't race GT or GP classes, but am still going fight that the 565 doesn't fit.  The 120hp duc hybrids fit better than 565s.


The majority of the bikes on the LW grid are Ducs, but not hybrids. Yes, they're $20K for a new high end build. So is a new R6 Superbike from Graves.

Show up in Middleweight Superbike with a $5000 special and you won't be competitive either. The only people this is not good for is the people hoping to run Superbike or GP classes on a budget machine. Otherwise it's no different than any other class.

All of this complaining is moot, the rules are not going to change. The dreaded machines you're worried about have failed to dominate despite all of the complaining so.... Anyway I'm out of this discussion, I'm racing MW these days.
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Re: Should the GSXR565 (and similar bikes) be outlawed?
« Reply #170 on: February 21, 2015, 12:04:26 am »
You keep saying you're out, but yet you keep coming back.
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Re: Should the GSXR565 (and similar bikes) be outlawed?
« Reply #171 on: February 21, 2015, 08:17:25 am »
. The dreaded machines you're worried about have failed to dominate despite all of the complaining so....

Check homestead results.....

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Re: Should the GSXR565 (and similar bikes) be outlawed?
« Reply #172 on: February 21, 2015, 10:07:42 pm »
Listen Sam, don't try to confuse Floridians with facts.... Love that LW Superbike Expert race... lots of SVs there.....
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Re: Should the GSXR565 (and similar bikes) be outlawed?
« Reply #173 on: February 22, 2015, 11:59:36 pm »
All of this complaining is moot, the rules are not going to change. The dreaded machines you're worried about have failed to dominate despite all of the complaining so.... Anyway I'm out of this discussion, I'm racing MW these days.
The dreaded machines have failed to dominate because they are few and far between, and the best riders aren't riding them. 

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Re: Should the GSXR565 (and similar bikes) be outlawed?
« Reply #174 on: February 23, 2015, 08:12:50 pm »
SV's are Dominate in alot of races in the Mid Atlantic and And Atlantic region.Very fast riders and high cornering speed.
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Re: Should the GSXR565 (and similar bikes) be outlawed?
« Reply #175 on: February 23, 2015, 09:03:30 pm »






Exacrly.  Put that rider on a DB5 and what'a he going to do?   Mazz, Kcraget, Xavier?   
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Re: Should the GSXR565 (and similar bikes) be outlawed?
« Reply #176 on: February 27, 2015, 10:26:53 am »
I been running LWT on and off depending the season since 79. I moved back to Middleweight a few seasons ago. Best thing I ever did. SV is a joke anymore for Expert down here unless you are 100 lbs.

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Re: Should the GSXR565 (and similar bikes) be outlawed?
« Reply #177 on: January 09, 2016, 08:50:41 am »
After reading as much as I can about this topic, I was curious if there was a definitive approval from CCS that the so called cripple triples are allowed in the Lightweight classes.

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Re: Should the GSXR565 (and similar bikes) be outlawed?
« Reply #178 on: January 09, 2016, 07:21:19 pm »
Yes, cripple triples (gsxr750 with cylinder disabled = 565cc ) is legal for LWGP and GTL.   But it will get crushed by a destroked 600 or good air-cooled Duc.
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Re: Should the GSXR565 (and similar bikes) be outlawed?
« Reply #179 on: January 11, 2016, 02:37:27 pm »
Yes, cripple triples (gsxr750 with cylinder disabled = 565cc ) is legal for LWGP and GTL.   But it will get crushed by a destroked 600 or good air-cooled Duc.

I would like to see that play out. Do you think if one could get a 100hp out of a cripple it could do battle with the Duc?