Hayden found Illegal? Are you legal?

[sdiver68]

And, of course, that the pro level, the factories have bikes that you can't buy.  Get with the program everyone.  But there are also bikes that are really stock still going fast.  Suspension is the game.  Some of the internal components in the AMA team bikes are big bucks.  More that the cost of the bike retail probably.

True, Factories have special parts, but they also cheat.  Period.  Otherwise, Hayden would not have had illegal cylinders, Spies not found with illegal intake, was it Yates (?) last year with an illegal rear wheel, all of them had illegal electric shifters...the provable violations go on.  Oh, I haven't even mentioned hidden software in the black boxes accessable only by the factory, and traction control in World Superbike,

Fact is, racing in general has a cheaters culture.  At my level, I really don't care, other than to laugh at a few situations that are very suspicious.  To deny it exists in racing would be like denying steroids in Pro Football.  

[sdiver68]

You tear it down and you put it back together. There's no other way to do it. Do you really want someone else digging around inside your engine except to inspect and measure things?

Yes, please.  What I really don't want is for me to be putting the thing back together!  I would have a leftover piston and maybe even a camshaft!  ;D

[Super_KC124]

I hope they don't check my bike! Specially the suspension! ;D (Just for you, Steve. ;) )

[Eddie#200]

I hope they don't check my bike! Specially the suspension! ;D (Just for you, Steve. ;) )

Kevin,  We know that you keep the NOS in the suspension! ;D ;D ;D

[tigerblade]

And if you really want to talk rules, let's talk about the fact that unleaded fuels that you buy at the pump are illegal under CCS and FUSA rules.

Sorry to take off on a tangent, but can someone explain the purpose of this rule?

[Jeff]

What really gets me is that a "repair" that I deem necessary on a Honda is an "illegal modification".  Straight cut gears SUCK.  I don't know why Honda would do this to me.

I would like to undercut the transmission versus replacing it in the middle of the night, but noooooo, that's illegal.

Perhaps even dumber is that you can't have a data acquisiton unit on your bike.  Why?

[Nate R]

No data Aquisition? Are you sure? I thought that only applied to FUSA?

Anyone know what section in the rules the data thing is in?


I know my bike is legal. It's mostly stock save for diff shock and front springs, rearsets, clipons,  sliders, bodywork and tires. Diff gauges, too.

I would protest if someone is doing something obviously cheating/illegal that would make a diff in my position.   Like, if an Am finishes ahead of me in LWSS and has Ohlins forks, I would probably protest that. Or if someone on an SV had a TL motor in there, like tshort,  ;) and they raced LWSB or SS, I would protest. But, unless I knew for SURE, AND I felt that the cheating let them beat me, I wouldn't say anything. If someone cheats a bit, but is beating me on skill anyway, why protest?

[Jeff]

No data Aquisition? Are you sure? I thought that only applied to FUSA?

Anyone know what section in the rules the data thing is in?

Couldn't find it.. thought it was there, I know I read it somewhere...

[motomadness]

Couldn't find it.. thought it was there, I know I read it somewhere...

That's because it is listed as a lap timer that measure rpm and/or wheel speed - 6.2.12 and 6.11.12.

It does appear that this rule only applies to the Sportbike class, regardless of the series (CCS or FUSA).

[the_weggie_man]

Some of you may remember Doug Polen in '87 being torn down out in CA after spanking everyone out there for Suzuki money.  Not only was he legal but the tech inspectors said his engine was in bad need of a rebuild.  Those kind of riders are rare though.

[Super_KC124]

Kevin,  We know that you keep the NOS in the suspension! ;D ;D ;D

Shhhhhh!

[bmfgsxr]

my bike is ss legal even though i have no plans on running ss this year. only gtu, gp, and sb.