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Started by mikendzel, October 07, 2009, 11:15:16 AM

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mikendzel

With ASRA seemingly always having low turn out (it's been discussed several times, officially at a race weekend last year) I nominate that CCS/ASRA allows amateurs to enter the ASRA races.  If the amateurs aren't fast enough to qualify, then so be it.  It would be a great way to raise revenue AND possibly purse money, make sure there are enough riders for contingency requirements, and add extra drama to the show if you have a repeat of Jordan Richardson's performance in NJMP.

Thoughts?

LilJayRR

Quote from: mikendzel on October 07, 2009, 11:15:16 AM
With ASRA seemingly always having low turn out (it's been discussed several times, officially at a race weekend last year) I nominate that CCS/ASRA allows amateurs to enter the ASRA races.  If the amateurs aren't fast enough to qualify, then so be it.  It would be a great way to raise revenue AND possibly purse money, make sure there are enough riders for contingency requirements, and add extra drama to the show if you have a repeat of Jordan Richardson's performance in NJMP.

Thoughts?

I vote no, at least to allowing them in every race. They are allowed in Thunderbike already, yet they very rarely enter. I would be all for allowing them into an additional race like the sportbike class.

Jordan Richardson is not your typical 'amature' he has some previous experience in motocross.He's not your typical amature racer.  He has been tearing it up for sure! Quallifying is not a in the race or out of the race, it is for grid postions only. So while it would be great to have more people in ASRA I'm not sure this would be the way to go about it.

If you let everyone in its no different than what you already have with CCS already except for qualifying.
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roadracer162

My thought-if there is an amateur that wants to compete in ASRA, then that AM should petition to become an Expert and once granted that then he'she should be allowed to compete. Maybe qualifying can be apart of that petition. As far as cometing as an amateur I say no.

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XFACTOR

I think there should be a qualifying time that has to be met....................my 2 cents

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Quote from: XFACTOR on October 08, 2009, 12:16:35 AM
I think there should be a qualifying time that has to be met....................my 2 cents
I agree.
Don't they do this in AMA?  In order to be allow to race and AM should meet the "pole position" + 8% test (or something in that range).  If he/she cannot qualify within this limit, then he/she can't start.
(Example: pole: 1':10" = 70 seconds -> minimum laptime to start: 75.6 seconds = 1':15.6")

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Sobottka

why have amatuer and expert licence status at all then? if this is a good idea, then let everyone race together all the time
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mikendzel

I really didn't want to step on any toes! 

I was remembering that ASRA is constantly trying to boost participation, and I thought this would be an easy way to do so, potentially leading to larger purses, and something fun for amateurs to try.  Certainly the list of amateurs who could even qualify if there were a 108-110% rule would be short, but 5-10 more entries is $500-$1000 in revenue per race.  Plus, with Thunderbike already allowing amateurs, I didn't see it as such a stretch.

XFACTOR

why have amatuer and expert licence status at all then? if this is a good idea, then let everyone race together all the time



This is what the qualifying time would do...weed out the ones who don't belong; sometimes an Amatuer comes along that can run at a good pace, if he/she can qualify why shouldn't they be allowed to race? 

roadracer162

Quote from: XFACTOR on October 08, 2009, 06:11:19 PM
why have amatuer and expert licence status at all then? if this is a good idea, then let everyone race together all the time



This is what the qualifying time would do...weed out the ones who don't belong; sometimes an Amatuer comes along that can run at a good pace, if he/she can qualify why shouldn't they be allowed to race? 

...and they should then be considered an expert!
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Sobottka

if your fast enough to compete is asra stuff, move your sandbaggin ass up to expert/pro and race!!!  :wtf:
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XFACTOR

if your fast enough to compete is asra stuff, move your sandbaggin ass up to expert/pro and race!!!  wtf


AGREED!!!  100%

I'm just talking about the odd-ball first year Am that might be fast enough.  But your right about the sandbaggers, there was a few this year that had better than average results last year and still managed to stay Am.  how? I don't know.