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Exactly how may times can you petition?

Started by xb9racer, April 27, 2009, 09:51:12 PM

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R1Racer99

It would be more interesting if the slow experts were held back and the fast amateurs were bumped up. I'm glad this is not the case because I want to run an entire amateur season and passing experts from the first wave isn't very hard, but from a competitive standpoint it sure would help.

superspud

Quote from: R1Racer99 on May 04, 2009, 09:49:30 PM
It would be more interesting if the slow experts were held back and the fast amateurs were bumped up. I'm glad this is not the case because I want to run an entire amateur season and passing experts from the first wave isn't very hard, but from a competitive standpoint it sure would help.

there's a concept.  It'd save on the interactions between the fast amatuers and the slow experts and make both classes competitive, but the criteria is very subjective. 
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R1Racer99

That's true. There's no good answer, someone will always be unhappy. I just don't worry about it and if I lose to someone, it's my fault, not the system.

superspud


You almost need three classes like td's.  Novice, little or no contingency, sandbaggers, some experienced amatuers and CR's that don't make the jump with current contengency and experts.  But unfortunately there isn't currently the grids to support such a setup. 
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red900

Someone always has to win. 
Why do people have to start hating those people when they are consistent winners.  At the amateur level the excuse is always that the person has too much experience, at the expert level it is always some rumor of cheating.....     
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xb9racer

I never said I hated anyone. I do, however think it's absolute bullshit that you can be on the bump up list TWICE, and stay an amateur. I also think it's bullshit you can win 5 regional championships, and the following year, stay amateur.
That is where the CCS office, in MY opinion, screwed up. But, hey, guess I shouldn't care. Apparently the powers that be don't.

George_Linhart

I like pie.

Nothing else useful to add here.

George

red900

Quote from: xb12racer on May 05, 2009, 04:50:18 PM
I never said I hated anyone. I do, however think it's absolute bullshit that you can be on the bump up list TWICE, and stay an amateur. I also think it's bullshit you can win 5 regional championships, and the following year, stay amateur.
That is where the CCS office, in MY opinion, screwed up. But, hey, guess I shouldn't care. Apparently the powers that be don't.


If all that is factual, I agree with you.....

Dustin Boyd
Cyclepath Racing LLC
Midwest Race Supplier

RoyHefner

Quote from: George_Linhart on May 05, 2009, 05:56:57 PM
I like pie.

Nothing else useful to add here.

George

Hey, George!  I enjoy a good piece of pie myself, although I'm really more of a cake man.

Missed you at HPT and RA this year.  What are your racing plans this year?  You did some endurance stuff with Steve, yes?

Roy Hefner
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mikendzel

Here's what I was just told last night by an expert racer that I respect a bunch when I broached this subject, after reviewing the Mid Atlantic Amateur results from both CCS and WERA this year:

"Go beat him.  If you can't, then learn from him."

funsizeracing

Quote from: George_Linhart on May 05, 2009, 05:56:57 PM
I like pie.

Nothing else useful to add here.

George


Coconut cream is a personal favorite.

What about cobbler? 
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George_Linhart

Quote from: RoyHefner on May 05, 2009, 10:25:57 PM
Hey, George!  I enjoy a good piece of pie myself, although I'm really more of a cake man.

Missed you at HPT and RA this year.  What are your racing plans this year?  You did some endurance stuff with Steve, yes?



Hey Roy - I certainly missed being there!

I will be racing this year.  Work is keeping me quite busy but I expect things to smooth out sometime in June (I hope).  I am going to try and make at least one day of the BHF round at the end of May (I'll give the track one more try before I swear it off) and definitely plan on the Topeka round in July.  It also is a little tougher from a logistics issue now that we have a new baby in the house.  It just got to the point that Sam (at 4 years old) was pretty easy for Heidi to manage at the track without help.  Taking care of Sam and Anderw may be a bit stressful for Heidi.

We made some more enhancements to the Duc over the winter, added somewhere between 7-12 bhp and skimmed off a few lbs.  We also looked carefully to try and work to ensure a bit more reliability by re-working the wire harness and replacing the slipper clutch.  I am really looking forward to getting it out on the tranck to see what I can do with it this year.

I really enjoyed the 6 hour endurance races earlier this year down in Texas.  It may make the sprints seem a bit boring in comparison.  I'd love to do more of it, but, the level of complexity, need to take additoinal time off and aggregate costs including the travel make it difficult.  I'm mulling over doing the additoinal round with Steve - I think a lot of it is going to come down to just how crazy things get at work.

I may run the Solo Challenge at BHF for the added track time.  I don't want to beat up the Duc too much, but, I've got such little time on it that I really don't think it would be an issue.  If I do, I may need a hand in pits from either you guys or Steve...

George