Exactly how may times can you petition?

[xb9racer]

Not naming names, but I have noticed that some amateur riders that were on the bump up list to go "EXPERT" FOR THE SECOND TIME, are still running in the Amateur  class. I thought it was a one time petition deal? Seems strange you can win a Class Championship. A number of them, for that matter, and still remain in the amateur rankings. Sorry, but I call bullshit on this.

[tstruyk]

 

[SV88]

Yes I know of one racer who won at least one championship last year and is still an AM.  A relatively slow AM but an AM nonetheless.  I never even considered staying down - 707 pts but no championship - I thought they'd (CCS) laugh at the letter.  The reality is that I was finishing well into the expert that year - the following year 1 as an expert was disastrous.
If CCS won't do it's job then peer pressure (being ostracized and ridiculed) may work.  If you've won an AM championship, then move on and let the real newbies have a chance.

[Burt Munro]

need some more 

[xb9racer]

5 regional championships and over 1000 point and still amateur? If that's not bullshit, I don't know what else to call it.

[SV88]

I'm just glad that I'm no longer an AM.  Too many sandbaggers in that group now.  As long as they pass the slower amateurs cleanly that's fine - we really don't want a repeat of the Marshall/Kurt show a couple of years ago.  I've got no interest in racing them - we're different classes.

I guess the main problem I see is that a new or developping AM rider won't see much hope of ever winning.  The fact that I won a couple of races and podiumed a bunch of times encouraged me to keep going and not fight the move to Exp.

[danch]

Might mean you're getting faster, might mean there's some slow experts. Might be a bit of both!

These days, a lot of people do do quite a few track days before they start. Why wouldn't you? There's a lot to learn about racing, why not take the opportunity to learn to ride fast first (for some value of fast), then learn to race? Some people get fast with a little seat time, some of us take freaking years to cut the anchor away. Some of us never thought we'd want to race, then we try it.

As far as champions coming back for more yellow-plate action, doesn't it depend on champion of what? There are classes out there with only 1 or 2 yellow-plate entries - you could be a regional champion without ever actually beating anybody. I wouldn't hold a grudge if they came back yellow, but I think it'd also do them good to move to a more competitive class.

[backMARKr]

Rick...can I get some of that corn? ::)

[red900]

I got some corn for ya....


Damn sandbagging trackday whores.....   may they all go to hell....  :)

[Burt Munro]

I got some corn for ya....


Damn sandbagging trackday whores.....   may they all go to hell....  :)

Guess we know where you're going!  

XB12Racer....  if you want to send me a PM with details I'll check into it with the CCS people who would know at Road America this weekend and get back to you.

[backMARKr]

I got some corn for ya....
Damn sandbagging trackday whores.....   may they all go to hell....  :)

Timmay?

[funsizeracing]

Don't let him fool you!  He's a professional shit disturber!  

Now then, about those names