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Look at what's legal in CCS MWSS

Started by aaronson37, February 15, 2007, 09:38:10 PM

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weggieman

Ed has three different SVs so you are talking about the SB not SS machine.

I'd put my money on Ed on equal equipment..............

Super Dave

+1

And probably not equal equipment even.
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Jeff

While I understand that little things add up and it's all about hundredths/thousandths of a second savings which can be repeated, I don't really see this as something that can change the result of a race...

What was the margin of the win?  hundredths/thousandths of a second?  Sure, it may have come into play...

Then again, it may not have...  Many brakes need heat to function correctly.  Cold brakes on those bikes will not bite the way they should.  Pop on a pair of EBC-HH-Kit pads and try to stop when they're cold.  FORGET IT!
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123user

CCS supersport rules have remained virtually unchanged for a number of years now.  CCS does not have glossary of definitions which makes it seem vague to WERA racers.   

Just read the rulebook, you should take any advantage the rules allow.  Do not handicap yourself by "reading in" rules that aren't there.  If you don't understand the rulebook or you can't afford the modifications... well that's not your competition's fault.  Racing is not simple, easy or free- so don't plan on winning races on "technicalities"




MELK-MAN

it was actually heavy wt supersport (had won GTU and mwss earlier :biggrin:), and yea, after coming through some riders finished a very close 2nd behind another r6. Tried to get around a few times, then said "hey, he's not gonna be here all year so i dont HAVE to win this race".. he got held up by some lappers and that closed the gap to make it very close at the line.
Aaron brought it to my attention, but it was not worth me making a fuss over. THe better rider for that race won.. Now, had he had slicks or somethin that is clear cut rule violation i don't think i would have hesitated to bust out the rule book. The rider was a cool dude up from Guatemala that runs Guatemalan national series. Lots of fast riders from South American countries.
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Super Dave

Nice job, Greg!  Was waiting for you to chime in...
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Speedballer347

Quote from: MELK-MAN on February 20, 2007, 09:19:32 PM
..... but it was not worth me making a fuss over. THe better rider for that race won.. Now, had he had slicks or somethin that is clear cut rule violation i don't think i would have hesitated to bust out the rule book.

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Super_KC124

Quote from: weggieman on February 19, 2007, 07:19:42 PM
Ed has three different SVs so you are talking about the SB not SS machine.

I'd put my money on Ed on equal equipment..............

Ed's SS bike has ram air and a fiberglass gas tank I'm sure. Pretty sure about the other stuff, too.  CCS rules do not say you can't duct air to the airbox. It' just says you must retain the stock airbox and stock inlet size. You can also run an other than stock subframe.

CCS

Quote from: gqnugget on February 19, 2007, 07:02:36 PM
That is because Kevin will make up the rules, change them, and give special treatment as he sees fit.  Kinda sounds like how Iraq was.  Even change final results when he feels the need after its been posted (with no protest filed).

gqnugget ,

We have never changed the results without a protest (or appeal)  being filed, and we certainly do not change the rules on a whim.

Please give me a specific instance where we changed a written rule on a whim.

As already mentioned, per the rule book, the only thing wrong with his additions was the material he made them from. Maybe it's nitpicking, maybe not, but you have to go by the rules and that was the only thing specifically prohibited.

On the downside to all this, before we "ban" this type of duct work, would this affect aftermarket fenders that change the airflow to brakes or radiators? If you have input. e-mail me and let me know what you think.
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Super_KC124

The rulebook says you can use an aftermarket air filter but you can't modify it. (LWSS)  I modified my stock air filter and was DQ'd. It didn't say I couldn't do it.  :cheers:

Jack_Brock

WOW, what a topic.  I haven't paid that much attention to the SS rules to this point, so what I am reading here is news to me.  I'm very surprised by a lot of this.  If what Kevin Clark posted is accurate about Mr. Keys bike and this is acceptable, why was Rebecca Caudle disqualified from the LWSS race at Topeka in June 2006 because the stock snorkle was missing off her bike?  Seems like this should be legal based on what I'm reading here.

I doubt that CCS is going to re-write their rulebook, but just in case they are considering it, my vote would be for their SS rules to mirror the other organizations and allow only specified modifications and nothing more.
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Super_KC124

Because Ed has a stock sized snorkle on his airbox, but he also has ram air tubes routing air to a pan on top of the airbox. This pressurizes the air going into the airbox.