RACE FORMAT CHANGE POLL

[Jeff]

I would have raced unlimited on my 600 if heavyweight wasn't available...  I did race UNL a couple of times on my 600 and did quite well in fact.

[r1owner]

Me too.  I've done it.  I'm just saying it may happen.

I like eliminating HW best of all the offered solutions so far.

[mrottin]

Here's the overall deal...

When costs go up for a company, revenue has to go up as well.  Find a creative way to make that happen!  The only 2 ways it can happen are for the number of entries to go up, or for the cost of the entries to go up.

I agree with Jeff on this, but heres my .02 worth.
Every racer has there "Racing checkbook" (some larger than others) and can only afford to spend X amount of money per weekend. I don't care how you charge it or put a fee on this or that when you hit that X value you are done. Charging racers more per race isn't going to get you more money, its going to get more racers doing fewer races.
This is an awesome sport but we also need to remember this is a business and needs to generate income. Considering we all know its already an expensive sport, making it more expensive won't generate more revenue in the long run. We need to bring more racers to the grid.
I agree with R1OWNER (advertising may help), I also didn't know how easy it was to get into racing or even hear about it from my local dealerships. I understand advertising in racing magazines is expensive and doesn't work - who reads racing magazines? - racers. We need to attract the street riders to do track days and the track day riders to racing. I'll leave that up to the professionals to figure out how!

[Jeff]

Yep, totally understand that people have X budget.  So looking at bringing in a bit more profit for CCS while adding something back to the racer so they feel a bit better about spending an extra $25-$50 per weekend.

And if in the process, there is something which can work out as a cost savings to CCS, it's icing on the cake and allows CCS to grow as a business which benefits us all...

[r1owner]

Yep, totally understand that people have X budget.  So looking at bringing in a bit more profit for CCS while adding something back to the racer so they feel a bit better about spending an extra $25-$50 per weekend.

And if in the process, there is something which can work out as a cost savings to CCS, it's icing on the cake and allows CCS to grow as a business which benefits us all...

This is my point... why try to squeeze another 25-50 out of existing racers?  Why not charge less and try to get more riders/entries.  From what I'm seeing, there's plenty of room on the grids for more bikes.

[Spooner]

Why not use us, the racers as advertising?  I know I am telling every street rider I can about trackdays and racing.  Why not give existing racers an incentive to get new people out on the track?  Maybe when someone purchases their license they can say who referred them and that person gets X amount of free races or something?  I know that would make me work a lot harder to get more guys to grid up!

[r1owner]

I agree Nick... every rider I see, I tell them about racing and try to get them to the track.

It's funny though cause at Gateway on the trackday.... how many bikes were there versus the races?  There were probably 50% more bikes there the day before.  What does it take to get those guys to race?

[Spooner]

Oh, and heavyweight it only 2 races-there is no HWGP that i have ever seen on a schedule.  I agree with making superbike and GP the same that way the 2 smokers still have a class to ride. 

[Spooner]

I agree Nick... every rider I see, I tell them about racing and try to get them to the track.

It's funny though cause at Gateway on the trackday.... how many bikes were there versus the races?  There were probably 50% more bikes there the day before.  What does it take to get those guys to race?

Yeah, there were over 100 riders at that trackday at Gateway.  Same with Hallett, they get well over 100 riders there too, but it seems like many guys aren't stepping up to the plate to race.  I would assume money is the #1 reason guys aren't moving up.  Also many of the trackday guys think you need to be 2 seconds off the lap record to race when that simply isn't true. 

Dean actually has a very good idea in making racer practice on saturdays open to street riders as well.  I know of several guys that hadn't been to a race weekend but had done many trackdays that will be racing next year because they came out to the races and saw what it was all about.  They get in free to watch the races sunday which I think was an incredible marketing tool!  Guys look at the results sheets and say, 'Hey, I can do those times!' and then they sign up and all is good. 

[r1owner]

Get rid of HW AND combine superbike and GP...

[Spooner]

That also brings up another point-many guys just getting into this are very confused with all the different classes.  Supersport and superbike/GP makes the most sense because its basically modded and not modded.

[Bubba]

Has anyone considered that eliminating certain classes will drastically effect the ability to run for points? If you are on a heavyweight(750) bike and you want to run for top ten points you are already at a disadvantage even with the new point structure. If you take away a heavyweight class those guys can forget a good overall number........    Just my two cents-points will be affected!

THIS IS TOO MUCH SHIT!! LEAVE IT ALONE!! RUN IT AS IS!!!