RACE FORMAT CHANGE POLL

[Sobottka]

nope not gt. drop gp and open superbike to gp machines. then have 8 lap sprints and 2 or 3 "shootout" style 12 lappers!!!(small purse would be nice too!)

[grasshopper]

nope not gt. drop gp and open superbike to gp machines. then have 8 lap sprints and 2 or 3 "shootout" style 12 lappers!!!(small purse would be nice too!)

I agree

[dabirk23]

Keep GT and drop either Superbike or GP. GT races are the only class that CCS runs that is even close to the time on track of a national level/pro race.

I agree.  It's the only place I know of where a rider gets a chance to prepare ones self and equipment for the length of a national race.

[ecumike]

Sooo instead of making more money for CCS you guys are proposing to drop/combine classes, which would lose CCS revenue.

Or are you saying you would you pay the $100 fee for longer races with that proposal, keeping the GT races?

No one said this sport was cheap, and no one says you have to do 8 races in a weekend... I mean, if the entry fee went up a couple bucks, it's called life, inflation, cost of living.. whatever you want to call it.  Ya gotta pay to play.   You're willing to pay increased prices for motorcycles, parts, leathers, etc, etc, but ya don't wanna pay extra $ for a stupid race entry fee??

Also, we're talking about CCS, regional racing, not National stuff. They have a national series.. it's called ASRA, if you want national-style races and lengths.  And for those of you good enough, there's another series, it's called the AMA.....

For example.. I want to race in a national style race.. so I also race the USGPRU, which is a national series... not try to turn a regional series into a national series.  I think it should just be a stepping stone/practice for national series.. not turn into it.

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

Well said Mike. But maybe some of these guys would like to pay SCCA race fees. Formula 2000 is around $775 for TWO RACES (1 sat and one sun at most events). Or maybe Imsa ones? IMSA Lites is $950 for ONE race, ALMS is $3700-7500 PER RACE for a P class car and $3200-7000 per GT class car depending on venue and duration.

[h2o_motorsports]

I say get rid of either superbike or GP.  And lengthen the sprint races that way!!  The GT races are a good way to have lots of race style track time.  That is unless there is a red flag.

[HAWK]

Jeff, have you considered the number of racers that only show up on Sunday and that the GT races are on Saturday? You would have to move 4 of the 12 lap sprint races to Saturday and that would probably cost you in entrys for those 4 classes.

I like the GT races and as mentioned, this is club racing, I think the sprints are long enough.

[cardzilla]

Do it by dumping the redundant classes! Superbike and GP?  Heavyweight and Unlimited?  Why?

+1... been sayin' that for a long time.  Not just redundant either, how about unused?  Four bike grids shouldn't be considered a race.  I like the GT races, but I'd rather drop the GT's, drop the unused and / or redundant classes and go to the FL region schedule.  That's practice on Saturday, race on Sunday and hopefully this would allow qualifying.  Races are supposed to be important, I know it's great to do 5 races for track time, but concentrating more on one longer one is more inline with pure racing... no do overs.

[Jeff]

I agree that there should be a 'showcase' class with qualifying and a few more laps (say 12).  the question would be, if that happened, would the grids increase?

[YellowDesmo998]

Sooo instead of making more money for CCS you guys are proposing to drop/combine classes, which would lose CCS revenue.

Or are you saying you would you pay the $100 fee for longer races with that proposal, keeping the GT races?

No one said this sport was cheap, and no one says you have to do 8 races in a weekend... I mean, if the entry fee went up a couple bucks, it's called life, inflation, cost of living.. whatever you want to call it.  Ya gotta pay to play.   You're willing to pay increased prices for motorcycles, parts, leathers, etc, etc, but ya don't wanna pay extra $ for a stupid race entry fee??

I think rising the race entry fees, in this case by $25 isn't the answer.  CCS needs to find out why race entries are dwindling.  Save some money and don't run the tracks were turnout is historically low.  Do some research and find out why other race organizations are growing while CCS isn't.

I personally prefer CCS over the others for many reasons that I won't go into detail here.  Do I boycott the other race organization?  No, I still race regionals with them but not with the dedication that I put towards CCS.

Spend a few $$$ during the off-season to find out what will attract more people to the CCS grids for 2007 and beyond.  Raising fees on shrinking race entries will only prolong its demise.  Don't band-aid it, fix it.

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

I agree that there should be a 'showcase' class with qualifying and a few more laps (say 12).  the question would be, if that happened, would the grids increase?

Doubtfull. Seems that more people are just either staying with track day groups or migrating to them.

[r1owner]

I know for me, I didn't even know club level racing existed (and was so easy to get into) until I met someone who raced WERA and CCS.  Seems like advertising may help get more people in.