Pit Bikes at Blackhawk Farms

[Super Dave]

I think if you own a race track or a racing organization, it's worse.

Call Kevin Elliott and ask him about insurance rates and track rental rates.

State legislation that is needed for tire walls.  

All the organizations that have their standards.

Tracks that have their standards and special fees.

We play in an area that normal people don't, and when stuff happens, the insurance dudes pay out and charge.  


I feel bad, Dan, but it's part of it.

When I started road racing, it was $30 for my first race, $20 for my second, and $10 for everyone after that.  Insurance, track costs, etc. pushed that all up.  I haven't seen any track owners getting filthy rich from the racing side, but track days have helped, and I don't see any racing organization owners raking in huge dollars for the dramatic efforts that they have to go through when I rake them through the coals, let alone others too.

Blackhawk's pretty easy to get around.  I usually walk.  Some race tracks don't allow bicycles.  Some tracks have quiet time when you'd think you'd be practicing.  It's going to be different place to place.

[R1abuser]

Maybe its the whole FIFTY dollars for pit-bikes... half of the racers dont even have a FIFTY dollar pit pike PERIOD !  ha ha !

Maybe make the fee 5 dollars... I will still bitch about it, but it would not seem so rediculous.

Maybe the track owners should realize that the more little crap they do to cast a negative light on me attending the race weekends, the more likely I am to stay home and find other activities to fill my time.

[Super Dave]

Maybe the track owners should realize that the more little crap they do to cast a negative light on me attending the race weekends, the more likely I am to stay home and find other activities to fill my time.

LOL!

Yeah, it works both ways...

Maybe track owners should realize that there would be less head aches if they sold their property off to make a nice country subdivision too.  After all, with all the people that don't follow the simplest of rules and complain about everything...is it really worth it?

[motobenco]

Subject: Enquiry from Blackhawk Farms Raceway


New Pit Bike Policy.

There has been a lot of discussion in regards to the proposed policy. I understand your concerns and believe that registering the pit bikes would be a good idea. However I feel that the $50.00 charge for this process is a bit excessive and would do little more than to punish those who have observed the existing rules. I believe it would more effective to initiate a two-strikes your out policy that would fine the rider $50-100.00 for the first offense and impound the bike for an additional offense. I hope that we can resolve this issue before the May opening date so we can start the season on a positive note.

Ben Clauss
CCS MW #174




Ben,

clarification on the fees associated with the new policy: $50.00 for the year; $15.00 per event.

BFR agrees with some of your considerations, reference the posted policy:

http://www.blackhawkfarms.com//bhf/pdfs/bfr_pit_vehicle_policy.pdf

However, to your point, introduction of fines based on offenses are difficult as the track is not in position to collect , track the frequency (1 strike, 2 strikes) and ultimately enforce. Instead, the penalities levied are within full control of the track, at mgmt. / security's discretion;

1) impound the vehicle
2) remove the offender from the facilties
3) bar the competitor / racer from competing in the event in question
4) ban the racer from competing for the season at the facilties

Although this policy may seem harsh, perception might even consider this to be an extreme measure....However, the alternative risk is no longer acceptable based on previous experiences.

As you know, pit vehicles are NOT required for racing, but a nice ammenity and priviledge we want to continue to support and allow in the safest manner possible.

Blackhawk Farms Raceway Mgmt.

[dylanfan53]

I REFUSE to be nickled and dimed... when a race weekend at BHF comes up I will stay home and GOLF !

I have never been associated with anyother hobby that so many people try and get in your pockets in one way or another...

;D You obviously haven't golfed much!

[Jeff]

so long as you have proof of valid registration, and a valid license on the vehicle in question, this would be excluded from the new policy. In this case, standard IDOT rules/laws apply.

Perfect...  Glad I registered and insured that Zuma...  

Always followed the rules and will continue to do so.  I'm glad to be able to use my zuma.

[251am]

I hope so. Also maybe they should start enforcing the CCS rule about competitors having their comp # on their pit bikes/quads/golf carts (see section 3.4.6 paragraph F in the 2006 rule book).

PMed ya Rob... ;D Thanks again!!

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

PMed ya Rob... ;D Thanks again!!

PM'ed back. ;D Glad to hear it was something simple.

But back on subject.

From a cornerworkers view here. We have enough to watch with the bikes on track. We dont need to be babysitting people in the infield (generally turn 3 and main gate areas are notorious for shenanigans on pitbikes.

[R1abuser]

;D You obviously haven't golfed much!

I suck at golf... LOL !

[Super Dave]

I suck at golf... LOL !

It's not how well you play the game.  It's that you have fun...

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

I suck at golf... LOL !

Bet I'm worse. ;D

I have SUCH a bad slice I literally have to aim 60 degress to the left of the hole to hit the greens from the tee on par 3's. ;D

[r1owner]

Perfect...  Glad I registered and insured that Zuma...  

Always followed the rules and will continue to do so.  I'm glad to be able to use my zuma.

Here's your cookie....