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Pit Bikes at Blackhawk Farms

Started by Super Dave, April 13, 2006, 10:33:20 AM

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r1owner

QuoteI bet there will be a lot of pissed off people regardless of how the info is put out..

I'm bringing a lawn chair to the riders meeting, its gonna be a long one!


You're going to have to since you won't have a pit bike to sit on (unless you pay the fee of course).

ducnut748

Well thanks to the antics of last years CCS races at Summit point no pit vehicles are aloud outside the paddock. I would like to meet the a$$hats on the 4 wheelers that got hurt just so I could thank them for ruining a good thing. Now when my handicapped mother comes to the race she is not allowed to leave the paddock on her golf cart.
 I think the racing orgs an tracks need to take a stiffer stance with the offenders other than punishing the rest of us. An now thanks to the imature jacka$$s they are digging even farter into racers pockets

Thanks but no thanks

Super Dave

I'm with you there.

Too often, there have been infractions of reasonable and known parameters of conduct and safety in the paddock and on track that have been broken.

There hasn't been enough done to make the penalties enough of a burden to the individuals that are breaking those rules.

If those who represent the organization renting the track cannot maintain a their members, even if they are a minor few, in a way that is condusive to proper safety practices...

If the ownership of a property can't get a management staff to do what is necessary, why should they risk their overall liability for themselves or other customers?  

I don't think they should have to.  And things seem to have gotten out of hand...my opinion.  Others may vary.

As for getting the information out...

What would be a better way?  You know now, rather than later.  Will Blackhawk Farms feel that is it necessary to nire extra security for the night time?  They have said that in the past.  

Community policing hasn't seemed to work.  And I don't know of any real penalties or fines that have been levied that offered any general deterrence.
Super Dave

Team-G

#51
So let me nit-pick a little..

If I have a registered license plate on my scooter and we can drive our trucks/cars in the paddock, is my scooter (licensed motor vehicle) exempt and I don't have to pay the 50?

FWIW...isn't the racer already responsible for his/her actions as well as their crew/guests?  Doesn't that include pit bikes after race hours?  So put numbers on the pit bikes and let the rest of us who stay at the track inforce the rule if we see it; or get the track manager and let them escort the racer and crew off the track for the duration of the weekend.

StumpysWife

I think it would be better to sell pit bike arm bands, if they want to go this route.  The problem is not the number of pit bikes, it the people riding them.  

I don't think the individuals who caused problems in the past were dealt with. The only dealing I saw was to punish everyone, which was weird and kindergardenish.  

Heather of the wobbly wheeled Elite.  

Protein Filled

Tell Stumpy he needs to get that thing fixed! He wrecked it...

Hey, so are you guys coming to Road A this weekend? Weather is looking nice. Even nicer for someone from Marquette!



QuoteHeather of the wobbly wheeled Elite.  
Edgar Dorn #81 - Numbskullz Racing, Mason Racin Tires, Michelin, Lithium Motorsports



Don't give up on your dreams! If an illiterate like K3 can write a book, imagine what you can do!

StumpysWife

QuoteTell Stumpy he needs to get that thing fixed! He wrecked it...

Hey, so are you guys coming to Road A this weekend? Weather is looking nice. Even nicer for someone from Marquette!




You know I make him feel bad about it, too.

As of now, it's looking positive for us to go down.  My last race as a childless Heather!  (If you don't count the dog or husband!) We'll bring the Mule to tote my pregnant butt around in.

Heather

K3 Chris Onwiler

#55
Great!  After eight years I finally get a pit bike, and now this? >:( ::)
The frame was snapped, the #3 rod was dangling from a hole in the cases, and what was left had been consumed by fire.  I said, "Hey, we've got all night!"
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HPT

Blackhawk Farms Raceway has instituted a new policy surrounding Support Pit Vehicles for the 2006 season.

As most of those discussing this post may (or may not) know, there has been a recent history of abuse, flagrant disregard for safety, track rules and event specific guidelines at Blackhawk Farms Raceway during various events with Pit Vehicles.

Last year's experience from both a safety perspective & blatant disregard for Track rules forced BFR mgmt. to develop a zero tolerance policy to deter this behaviour, while still allowing for the appropriate usage of Pit Vehicles for Race Support in the safest manner possible for participants.

Unfortunately, such a policy has business costs involved, hence the registration fee.

to clarify the new pit vehicle policy for Blackhawk Farms Raceway, please reference the link below:

http://www.blackhawkfarms.com//bhf/pdfs/bfr_pit_vehicle_policy.pdf

This registration form / process is now required by ALL competitors, crew, event workers, vendors that would like to utilize Pit Vehicles on BFR facilities. Spectators are NOT ALLOWED TO RIDE, OPERATE PIT VEHICLES FOR ANY REASON. Those who wish to use a Pit Vehicle must purchase a single event or an annual sticker, in addition to agreeing to BFR Pit Vehicle rules. Pedal Bikes are excluded from this consideration.

This policy shall be in force beginning April 1, 2006.

Blackhawk Farms Raceway Mgmt.

ducnut748

Thats the biggest crock of shit I heard in a long time, Its just another way the track NAZIS have figured out to get into racers pockets, If someone had some balls they would tell Blackhawk to stick the entire deal right in ther ass, Its not like they have a 5 star track or anything


Jim

It seems odd that Road America had a fatality a few years ago when a women fell from one of their golf carts. Yet their insurance company hasn't mandated they register every pit bike and charge more than the DMV to cover "business costs."

This is going to apply to the "car" people too. Right?

Dox_daughter

It's not about the money, it's the safety aspect of it all.

 We've got some people in our little community that get stupid and careless, and because they've screwed up, we're dealing with basic group punishment.  

For example,
I've been coming to Blackhawk for 14 years now with Doc, and when I was 12, I was nearly run over by a large black pickup while I was on MY pitbike that is utilized by all members of Doxgon Racing.  For a long time after that, I just didn't ride at the tracks because  as a minor and member of the pitcrew, it was unnecessary.  

I've noticed that there have been a lot of kids (I use that term loosely) that assume that since they can do this at home they can do it at the track.  They end up nearly or actually causing minor bangups in the paddock.

As far as Team Doxgon is concerned, there really isn't anything wrong with the new policy, albeit that it is slightly inconvenient for those who already have problems managing this most expensive of hobbies.




Wish I was going to be at RA with you guys!  Instead of singing the anthem for you, I'll be in a Shakespearean play for school.  But I'm probably going to blow off Prom to be there at Blackhawk.