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Work zone fines in IL
« on: February 28, 2006, 12:11:39 pm »
Beginning in July the State of Illinois will use speed cameras in areas designated as "Work Zones" on major freeways. Anyone caught by these devices will be mailed a $375.00 ticket for the FIRST offense, but the SECOND offense will cost $1000.00 and comes with a 90-Day suspension. Drivers will also receive demerit points against their license, which allows insurance companies to raise their rates. This represents the harshest penalty structure yet for a city or state using PHOTO enforcements. The State will begin with TWO camera vans issuing tickets in work zones with speed limits lowered to 45 MPH. Photographs of both the Driver's face and License plate are taken.
Pass this on to everyone you know !!!!
for more info: http://www.dot.state.il.us/press/r033005.html
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Re: Work zone fines in IL
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2006, 01:20:38 pm »
Sheesh....

First you cannot go over 55 if you are in a motor home, semi, or pulling a trailer; and now this.

Illinois sucks!
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2006, 03:00:03 pm »
39 IDOT workers died last year.  This has been an ongoing thing here for the past 10 years.
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2006, 04:29:08 am »
I agree, they have already placed cameras in most city intersections too, and they now even have noise detectors to see how loud your motorcycle is and can give you a ticket if it is too loud!! So much for the land of Freedom. ::)
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Re: Work zone fines in IL
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2006, 08:02:55 am »
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I agree, they have already placed cameras in most city intersections too, and they now even have noise detectors to see how loud your motorcycle is and can give you a ticket if it is too loud!! So much for the land of Freedom. ::)


Driving is a privaledge, not a right. Therefore it can be regulated. As long as the regulation does not infringe upon your rights, it is legal.

One thing I cannot stand is loud cars/motorcycles on the street. It is illegal to modify your vehicle to make it any louder than stock (used to work at a motorcycle manufacturer) once noise standards were put in place. The irony of the noise issue was that Harley and the Davidsons knew that loud bikes were bad PR so they put mufflers on their bikes even though they were not required. Their bike at the time was refered to as the silent gray fellow.
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Re: Work zone fines in IL
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2006, 10:37:26 am »
I do take issue with tickets being sent out by mail and a photograph.  

The ticket is issued to vehicle, not the perp.  If the owner is not driving the vehicle, should the owner be liable for the infraction of another?  

I think that laws should be enforced, but I don't think this is the correct way to do it.  Yeah, it's for safety, I know...

I'd like to see families ticketed for not buckling their kids in there car seats.  That would save lives too.  Where's the support for photographs for that...
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Re: Work zone fines in IL
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2006, 10:43:26 am »
What about parking tickets?

Alexa stated that the cameras that are being used take a picture of the plate and the face of the driver. These types of systems have been around for some time.
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Re: Work zone fines in IL
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2006, 11:12:32 am »
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Driving is a privaledge, not a right. Therefore it can be regulated. As long as the regulation does not infringe upon your rights, it is legal.


True.  You can still speed.  But that is an individual choice, not necessarily the choice of the titled owner, who might not be operating the vehicle.  

Some regulations infringe upon your rights, and it is legal.  
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2006, 12:03:12 pm »
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True.  You can still speed.  But that is an individual choice, not necessarily the choice of the titled owner, who might not be operating the vehicle.  

Some regulations infringe upon your rights, and it is legal.  


The picture of the driver is taken. So if the ticket is sent to the owner, the owner goes to court and have them show the proof you were driving. Since the cameras take a picture of the driver, the ticket is then assigned to the driver. ISTR that states that tried to use red light cameras and speed cameras had to have proof of the driver, hence the cameras that take both the car and the driver.

A law that violates the constitution will stand until challeneged and shown to be unconstitutional. It is not the job of the legislative branch to determine constitutionality (generally they will not pass a law that is blatantly unconstitutional).
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Re: Work zone fines in IL
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2006, 12:36:30 pm »
In GA they allow the red light cameras because it's a fine and no points are given for it.  Not sure if that's true for a cop issued red light ticket (I think those have points).

They figure since nothing is being directly attributed to any specific driver the car owner is responsible for getting the cash form whoever they let drive the car.  

Now the speeding tix without a clear picture of the dirver I can see being very easy to fight.
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