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Racing Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: weggieman on July 10, 2008, 10:46:02 PM

Title: sad day for racing
Post by: weggieman on July 10, 2008, 10:46:02 PM
Tis a sad day in America. The AMA Board of Directors has approved the sale to DMG.http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=33190 (http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=33190).

Title: Re: sad day for racing
Post by: Ant on July 11, 2008, 10:43:31 PM
It's not going as bad as you think.
Title: Re: sad day for racing
Post by: schmitty on July 12, 2008, 10:07:40 PM
Why the hell is this sad!?  The AMA was heading for the toilet!  Who the hell wants to watch the same two guys run away with the lead and watch everybody else fight for the scraps.  I don't know about you but it makes things awfully boring when first and second place have a 15 second lead after the second or third lap.

I may not agree with everything they're proposing, but it's not set in stone yet.  Something needed to change.  Wouldn't you rather see someting like World Superbike?  That is some of the most exciting racing I have ever seen!  At any race there are at least 5-7 guys who could win the race.  Look at the last race at Misano, The top two guys were on PRIVATEER bikes.  When was the last time you saw anything but a Yosh Suzuki on the top of the box?  A shakeup was desperately needed!

Schmitty
Title: Re: sad day for racing
Post by: weggieman on July 12, 2008, 10:41:28 PM
Ah, you guys with no sense of history.....Tis a sad day because the  AMA has been around forever as the head of American racing, of all kinds. It's sad that instead of working out their problems, getting better management for the varied racing series they just chucked it all. It's a bullshit way to deal with their problems.

I don't see DMG as the salvation to AMA's troubles. Anytime a business with the history of AMA goes under it's a sad day in my book.
Title: Re: sad day for racing
Post by: PJ721 on July 13, 2008, 10:00:53 AM
The AMA is still here...just not running a race series.
Title: Re: sad day for racing
Post by: weggieman on July 13, 2008, 10:36:05 AM
I know that...........what I'm talking about is the racing series! It's a long, rich history that should have continued in my opinion. But, because the new man in charge, Rob Dingman,  didn't have a background in racing he sold the series down the river.

It could have been resolved within with some work but he and now the entire board has taken the cowards way out.
Title: Re: sad day for racing
Post by: rogers1323 on July 13, 2008, 01:47:21 PM
I'm just afraid that DMG is going to turn the AMA into NASCAR instead of into World Superbike.  I agree, I prefer to watch WSBK races, but I'm not sure the changes they are proposing are going to fix what's actually wrong with things.
Title: Re: sad day for racing
Post by: PJ721 on July 13, 2008, 06:00:31 PM
Quote from: weggieman on July 13, 2008, 10:36:05 AM
It could have been resolved within with some work but he and now the entire board has taken the cowards way out.

maybe it could have been resolved...but to say they took the cowards way out is a bit harsh.

Seems to me the AMA decided they didn't want to run the series and opted out so they could concentrate more on the political side - protecting our rights to ride - both on and off road.

Maybe DMG wont make it better - but I refuse to make a decision on it until 2009 begins and see what happens.
Better? Worse? only time will tell...but it's far from a sad day...that would be not having a professional  US roadracing series at all. 
Title: Re: sad day for racing
Post by: s a x m a n on July 13, 2008, 09:51:21 PM
If DMG can make Nascar popular ... I look forward to seeing what they can do to bring our sport mainstream

I look forward to this new direction for the primier US class
Title: Re: sad day for racing
Post by: Mongo on July 14, 2008, 06:59:34 PM
DMG is Grand-AM not NASCAR.....
Title: Re: sad day for racing
Post by: 123user on July 14, 2008, 07:21:18 PM
Yes! yes!  Now the AMA can concentrate on the truly important issues...  like defending some moron's right to ride in flip-flops and without a helmet.
Title: Re: sad day for racing
Post by: weggieman on July 14, 2008, 08:25:56 PM
We all have to wait and see what happens with this mess. But, I think it could have been handled much better than it has been.

There never had to be wholesale changes as DMG came up with. A bit of reorganization and a better rule book could have taken care of the immediate problems and then they could have worked from there. Throwing the entire series into the trash and trying to start from scratch was not, as they found out, the way to do this.

End of my opinion.
Title: Re: sad day for racing
Post by: Smy on July 15, 2008, 10:28:28 AM
Quote from: 123user on July 14, 2008, 07:21:18 PM
Yes! yes!  Now the AMA can concentrate on the truly important issues...  like defending some moron's right to ride in flip-flops and without a helmet.
They ride with helmets,        strapped to their tail section.lol
Title: Re: sad day for racing
Post by: 123user on July 15, 2008, 11:06:50 AM
As a youth, I was involved in the shooting sports.  I even spent a summer at the NRA's  Wittington Center in Raton, NM.  That was before the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action was heavily involve in politics.  For 150 years, the NRA sanctioned competetive shooting (including Olympic athletes), taught firearms safety, and offered special training to Police and Military.  In fact, the NRA still does all this stuff, but their reputation has been overshadowed by their lobbying efforts. 

Is the AMA headed in the same direction?  Motorcycling will never be as controversial as private firearms ownership, but by concentrating on politics instead of safety training and racing- they're loosing their fundamental direction.  Selling off the AMA-Superbike brand was a complete dereliction of duty by the AMA directors.
Title: Re: sad day for racing
Post by: gixxerlvr on July 15, 2008, 11:28:04 AM
Did anyone here they are bringing back the 750 class in the racing circuit?  what are the classes suppose to be like next year.
Title: Re: sad day for racing
Post by: Mongo on July 15, 2008, 04:56:16 PM
No way to know for sure, latest rumor is dyno controlled Daytona Superbike and WSB rules for a 1k class.
Title: Re: sad day for racing
Post by: benprobst on July 15, 2008, 05:16:30 PM
Quote from: Mongo on July 15, 2008, 04:56:16 PM
No way to know for sure, latest rumor is dyno controlled Daytona Superbike and WSB rules for a 1k class.

They will let us know in 2 weeks.  :biggrin: