Alright, let's go over this again.
>I'd rather not... but hey, I'll be yor huckleberry...
With Yamaha's kit ECU, you can do the following:
Switch Program's (main loops)
Adjust the program to an extent (subroutine for that program specifically)
> pure conjecture here...
So, you can adjust the main program thru the subrutines they allow (program adjustments) but there is only so far you can go either way. For an example, let's say it's
-1, -2, -3, -4 0 1, 2, 3, 4
So, 0 is the default. Then you can go plus or minus 4, so you have 8 total different settings, or subroutines from the default.
With a power commander, you can choose if it's 8, 650, or 1 million. It really comes down to the file size itself.
> No, you're limited by the frequency as to the available injector pulse width...
You can calculate speed with the following math equation dist = sqrt( (x1-x0)^2 + (y1-y0)^2 + (z1-z0)^2 )
Then, you can have it calculated and lets say it's 124.332 miles per hour. So, at 124.332 miles per hour, the bike misfires in 6th gear at 14,540 RPM.
> another gratutious use of irrelevant techno-bable...
What do you do?
>Obviously not what you'd do...
You have 8 total options other than default on the ECU. On a power commander, you can keep making adjustments all day and night until you get where you are happy.
> a million choices at 4 possible outcomes doesn't make _me_ happy...
Get what I'm saying yet?
> Sure, i've heard BS before...
With the right knowledge and tools (mechanic and dyno) you can tweak in your powercommander because YOU can write the file itself thru a graphical PC based software.
>No, you can alter the injector pulse width per rpm, you cannot alter the timing nor can you reference the throttle position...
With the ECU, you CAN'T write software. You can only select from what options they give you, and if what you need isn't in one of the settings, or the setting doesn't work right, you're screwed.
>So what was the point of that diatribe at the begining of this thread? Oh, that's right, you were 'helping'...
You have no option other than to completely rewrite the OS of the ECU.
> You first...
Now, that being said, the powercommander offers more either way. For instance, see the "Graves" files on the 2005 R6? See how it shows what parts were on that bike during that tune? Chances are, someone from Graves or a professional mechanic tuned that file. Technically, it could work if you were running Yosh, and it could be fine. But, the file was to maximize performace with Graves. Do you have any selectability with the ECU as to what exhaust you have? Nope, you have 8 different choices on settings for each perimeter. If the setting doesn't adjust as far as you need it to be for your bike, it's worthless.
> First off, you don't know how many parameters there are... Second off, the ECU/Power Commander doesn't know squat about the brand of pipe, the only thing important here is the amount of adjustability offered...
The ECU offers less selectability to you because you can't go any further than their programs allow. Let's say you need to be at -7 timing. What if the ECU only allows -6.
> Given that the Power Commander doesn't alter the timing, this point is moot...
I don't know crap about mechanical issues or timing.
> Finally, a point I can agree with... And I would add that you know nothing about the performance or tunability of Yamaha's kit ECU or the Power Commander for that matter...