Tires

[H-man]

Stick has the Stones.

 ;D And I wasn't even trying to be funny 8)

[Super Dave]

In that case, I like the Pirelli DOT better than the Michelin S2/M2.  However, I never rode these tire on the same bike (Pirelli on my 400 and R6, Michelin on 748/996).

You probably haven't ridden on the '05 Michelin stuff.

It's quite a bit different.  New carcasses, etc.  

[Sunny]

No, I haven't.  I guess I should give them a try.  What combination do you suggest I go for?  S2 front/M2 rear?  Actually, WERA D class allows slicks, should I bother with S2/M2 at all?  I definitely didn't feel any noticeable difference in Pirelli DOT and slicks.  

[Super Dave]

Don't know what the new stuff will be called.

I used an S2 front and an H2 rear regularly at Blackhawk.  We'd have some different stuff to test.

But, honestly, the new Pilot Power Sport rear, which IS and honest to goodness street tire, gave me similar feedback to the H2 rear race tire.  I was a bit shocked.  

So, I don't know what will work for you.  And sometimes, we had some tires that worked better in some places than others.

[Sunny]

Thanks.  Keep us updated with your tire testing!

[BRG]

this is to funny!!!!!!!!!!!

Michelin guys say Michelin, go figure

Pirelli's drive sideways when they start spinning, Ha,Ha


This is to funny.

Baker

[H-man]

this is to funny!!!!!!!!!!!
.... Ha,Ha.  This is to funny.
Baker

No Joke BRG.  YOu've got the word on this one.  I started out asking about one specific brand and have received a lot of side info.

Thanks Chuck :)  Your info is right along the line of what I was hoping to learn  8)

  H-man

[ekraft84]

Don't listen to Sunny.  Seriously.  

I'll put a smiley here, but spitting out facts and opinions, meshed together with excuses is a recipe for disaster.  

It's hard enough to decipher all the two cents one can get from all angles, but then you throw Sunny's input in there and it's bound to put you on your head.

:)

[STT-GUY]

Don't listen to Sunny.  Seriously.  

I'll put a smiley here, but spitting out facts and opinions, meshed together with excuses is a recipe for disaster.  

It's hard enough to decipher all the two cents one can get from all angles, but then you throw Sunny's input in there and it's bound to put you on your head.

:)

I thought that the BBS was THE place to learn about racing?????

[Sunny]

Yeah Eddie, what's with the anti-Sunny thing?   ???

Just sharing my opinion/experience like others..........  I didn't tell anyone to use any particular tire.  I only said I rode the Pirelli DOT/slick and Michelin S2/M2, and in my experience, the Pirelli definitely drive sideways when spinning.  Is that so wrong?  If you know something we don't, why don't you share it?   ???

[ekraft84]

See .. it's not that I'm *anti-Sunny* .. It's just that I find myself dazed, confused, hallucinating, questioning my own morals, wanting to run into a wall, etc. whenever you start posting.  Maybe it's some sort of frequency glitch over the bandwidth that's causing this because things are great all the other times when we chat.

When are you guys planning on coming out to Kart 2 Kart to ride?  ;D

edit:  in the end, I think the convulsions are coming from you talking about side grip and excessively spinning the rear tire on a 400.  It's a personal pet peeve of mine I think.  People always talking about "spinning it up", when they really aren't.  I ride the SV and rarely ever spin the tire.  I don't believe it happens as much as people talk about it.

(although I did just show my boss the footage of me laying black strips at Nelson before the rear tire let go and almost flipped me off - now *that* was cool!  ;D )

[Sunny]

Hmmmmmm............maybe you read too much into what I said.................stay open minded!   ;D ;)

I never said anything about excessively spinning the rear tire on a 400!  The only time I spin it up (and felt it) was at the end of the tire life (a little longer with my speed)!  Note, I ran that same rear tire for like 4 race weekends before that happened.  I remember telling you about the tire spinning at Beaverun (second times we were there in 2004) when it happened, and you told me it may be due to my body positioning.  Anyway, I couldn't spin up the rear when the tire is fresh.  

Ok now, let me know when you'll be at K2K, and I'll join you for some go-kart lessons!  I am assuming you are not talking about the minibike thing as I don't have one.