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Started by Bad_Matt, December 30, 2004, 02:25:10 PM

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Super Dave

QuoteIf I want to spend the time and money organizing a race organization, why would I need CCS involvement

Because their global purchasing ability of insurance as part of CCE is a great deal.  And it includes secondary medical for an injured rider, attendee, etc.

It saves on the overall cost.
Super Dave

RAY_HYMER

Dave, I agree with you, but forming a whole race organization takes a whole lot more planning and financing then just helping CCS add a race to their schedule.  I don't live in California, I live in Phoenix, AZ.  When I decide to form a race organization, it would be based in Arizona, and I would be HONORED to be a CCS affiliate, but I am a couple years away from committing to that large of a project.  When I decide to do that, I want it to be a result of great planning, ample finances, an enthusiastic and knowledegable staff, faithful sponsorsorships, and proper venues, and not just thrown together on the fly.      

brian213

QuoteEach year is different.  Change is part of it all.
Unless you race with WSMC...same thing, every month, every year.  Third Sunday of every month.  Kinda convenient when you own the track I guess.

I wish they'd drop at least Dec. or Jan...or both.  :)

-Brian

cstem

HMMM... Following this loosely and have to say- Garth- did you read the whole thread?  CCS did not intentionally schedule races on top of the heavy hitters in the area.  Read Kevin's response please.  
Ray- for CCS to step up and race in BW would be a loss.  It has been for 4 years.  That is why they are not going there this year.  That is why they will not step up and sanction a race.  I assume you figure that by using your offer of help (and a gracious one too- honestly) they will save on payroll-not so.  Even if they did not pay the announcer (who in this region makes very little compared to what he can make with other events but does it because he loves the SW and PAC racers blah blah blah) the race will still lose money.  ONe area you could cut cost if the track would let you  (which they will not) is hire your own cornerworkers like we do in Phoenix.  The workers we got in So Cal were a handful to work with, and got paid way to much for the quality they gave in my opinion.  Ask Roger about costs.  Ask the track owners why they can give the Chevette club or something all the dates first (because the Pinto club is in with the SCCA who pays good coin for the track- freaking car guys).  Fact is this- AFM apparently puts on a good show in Nor Cal.  WSMC in the south.  Both are great track days all weekend long!!  Racing is much better and safer with CCS.  
The voice of the Southwest.

garthed

cstem- yes i did read the thread. I can think of three CCS events off of the top of my head the where on the same weekend as another close event. I'm not saying that it was done on purpose by anyone but its why CCS did not make it. Thats just my opinion. It does not matter now. I really do not think CCS will ever come back here..

racin_jason

#41
  Garth is mad because he couldn't beat me. ;)  Just kidding Garth.  There are a lot of good points being made here but I have kept quiet long enough.  I really feel like I am being snubbed here.  I have been a full supporter of CCS for the last three years.  I have invested lots of money, time, blood, sweat, and so on and so fourth.  You all so the pacific reg had more entries on a given weekend.  Well why was it we were always the last to know of event changes, CANCELLATIONS, and schedule changes.  You would think that they would try and get the word out here a little better so we could adjust our schedules.  
   Three years ago I finished with the #3 plate.  Two years ago I finished with the #2 plate.  Guess what, for the first time in 13 years of racing I obtained something that I thought Id never get.  The #1 plate.  Look at me now I have a #1 and no damn region!!! >:(  I find out about it in the fourm.  If they knew this was comming why wasn't something said earlier?  Instead we think everything is ok and start planning for the following year only to find out I am a man with out a cause.  No region!  How should I feel? ???

garthed

Congrats Jason on your number 1. I know you've been working for that for a long time now. You should send a letter to CCS corporate and tell them you want a refund for all of the money you spent chasing the title in the Pasific. How have you been anyhow? It really suck dude that CCS in the Pacific is gone. So what are you going to do AFM or WERA. I'm going to try and do both and some AMA. Let me know. We'll have to do some track days.

brian213

Jason, sorry to hear that you just found out.  You did a really good job this past year!

-Brian

Bad_Matt

so...besides the Hymers, who is going to the banquet?

rotoboge

Quoteso...besides the Hymers, who is going to the banquet?

I will be attending, my son Tommy, and another racer; Robo-Rob will too.

We would also like to race Button Willow in July. No races in CA will suck, but we will still make all the CCS, ASMA, and most WERA events.

tshowrench

Im pretty sure that you can count us in... Daniel, Tsho and myself... Al Harris is flying out, and Dirk Harden will be there...