Geoff May and a factory ride

[cornercamping]

Another thing is if AMA is such a pain in the ass to run, why run it?  Why run it against the factory teams if you don't stand a chance, especially if your not going to make the money to justify it?  Yeah, it's more "prestigous" but still. If privateers quit running AMA, where do the AMA teams look for new riders? CCS, WERA, ect. right?  Why go thru more trouble for less or equal pay off?  I don't get it, but then again I haven't been there to deal with it.  I've never filled out a contigency form in my life.  The two times I won a race it was unexpected, so I never filled out any forms, and the contingency wouldn't have even paid for lunch.  Plus, that's not why I showed up.   I showed up because I love the track, my bike, and the challenge.  I'm far from fast enough to even expect to place top 10 on a "serious" grid with semi fast people.  I'm there for the fun.  As long as I go home the same way I came in, and had a good time over the weekend, I"m happy.  

[fourandsix]

Fourandsix's statement "Geoff although a good rider and finished well in superbike standings this year did not have any really impressive races this year on the pro level"! Are the words of what I consider a truly "uninformed fool"! How anyone who follows the AMA Superbike Series can make such a "lame brain " statement about a rider who not only finished 5th in the series but was top ten (and as high as 5th)in every round but two, can only be classified as a "fool at best"! Geoff's accomplishments on the track speak for themself while fourandsix does nothing more than talk out his ass!

HD  

HD

I am impressed! The unfortunate part is that you are uninformed. What people look at is who did he beat. As i said he is a good rider . So as far as talking out of you ass what factory rider did he beat or was even close to in any of those races? I am not talking about factory riders that broke or fell. He was able only to get within 2 secs of any of the winners lap times and in most cases was about a minute behind the leader at any event. In the class that had the most competition Superstock he had finishes of 17th,10th,18th,13th,19th,12th,and then didn't run the whole season...... Yes geoff is a good rider , great rider not yet that can happen.So pull your head out of your own ass and wake up. And by the way if your going to call people names at least don't hide behind a screenname. Without knowing who you are i would have to say i am a better judge of talent then you! Flame away.  Jim

[fourandsix]

The other problem with this sport is all the negative crap on these boards and in the papers from Morons like you , the only reason i posted in here was to give some insight , then what happens is whiners like you that get all beered up and post rude remarks , so to answer PJ no i won't waste my time trying to educate anyone it's not worth it!  Jim

[khanson]

Jim, isn't it past your bedtime and you need your beauty rest.  

I think if you go to bed now you will wake up with a full head of hair!!  You're buyin lunch tommorrow and am I'm going to have pie ala mode since it's on your dime!

[fourandsix]

To answer Dan , people race AMA because that is the top level of racing here in the US. If your going to be the best you have to beat the best. Thats why racers go AMA and why they will continue to do so .

[fourandsix]

Jim, isn't it past your bedtime and you need your beauty rest.  

I think if you go to bed now you will wake up with a full head of hair!!  You're buyin lunch tommorrow and am I'm going to have pie ala mode since it's on your dime!

I needed some pre sleep entertainment. yeah you need some more pie!

[khanson]

Yes Denning makes a good living and is one of the few that has figured it out.  However, its getting tougher for him now with other people also trying to do it.

Larry doesn't care about running the AMA and having to do all the promotional stuff.  He has his nitch and likes be able to do it his way.

Vesrah...same deal.  Mark is a friend of mine and has a very good program and makes a decent living at it.  There's no incentive for him to move.  He has the market cornered and keeps delivering championships and results to his sponsors.

Why run AMA.....that's a good question.  Why run the local stock car series and never aspire to do Nextel Cup.  It's all in the individual in what he wants to accomplish.

AMA is the biggest show in town.  

Why not go compete against the big dogs?  Once you've done it, you understand why.  I love the challege and love the sport.  I think roadracing is still the coolest thing on earth and I'm committed to doing my part to growing/promoting the sport.  It continues to sit stagnant and everyone fighting for the same little piece of pie within the industry.

People need to think outside of the box!

[khanson]

Yes...I agree people need to not hide behind screen names.  Unhook your skirt HD!

[khanson]

Goodnight JimBob!! ; :-*

[Dawn]

Yes...I agree people need to not hide behind screen names.  Unhook your skirt HD!

Hdpromos is Henry DeGouw, president of CCS Florida.  He's never hidden behind his screen name.

Dawn   :)

[fourandsix]

Hdpromos is Henry DeGouw, president of CCS Florida.  He's never hidden behind his screen name.

Dawn   :)

I knew quite well who hdpromos was ,and he has given us another example why Motorcycle racing does not grow in the US.Just read the stuff written here , on the WERA board and in Roadracing world and you have no reason to wonder why outside the industry sponsors are not involved.When someone has a difference of opinion they are labeled "fools and talk out of their ass".This comes from a person that is considered one of the movers and shakers in our sport.I understand why Henry attacked me on a personal level as he was thinking with his heart not his head. I personally have stated that Geoff is a great guy and a good racer and wish him nothing but the best. But being all that and a dollar still will not get you a factory ride.Until all the mudslinging and name calling go away we will still be considered a sideshow by the mainstream advertisers and TV people.If you look what the questition was that started this post you can see how it has went from a great question to a waste of evryones time. I gave my opinion and i am done . Henry have a great day!

[smoke]

and still spend a lot of money out of pocket......

And that's fine.....

I really want people to understand what they are getting into if they really want to pursue AMA and not have these delusions of grandeur about getting a free ride and 50K for a salary and all the contingency/winnings you can win!!!   :-*

Thanks Kevin

You are correct I and others had no idea how things were in the AMA. From you being there you place a real life perspective on things.