Re: VOTE!

[Super Dave]

I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I began my career in the oil business in
Midland, Texas, in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil
in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.

Wow, imagine... a guy can't win everytime.  Often, following the winner is the first place looser.

Wasn't Edision bankrupt several times?  

Finding oil in Texas might be hard with all the companies IN Texas actually having the oil.  If it were so easy, would we need oil from outside the US?

So, what's our moral here?  He's quitter?
 

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS:

Enough accomplishments that they supported him for two terms as president....Gore didn't win his state.  Edwards didn't win his for his side.  Kerry did ok on that one...

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:

I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal
record.

Is he the only one that admitted that he got caught?  

I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one
billion dollars per week.

Don't forget that we still occupy Korea.  Oh, and a lot of Europe...but they hate us right?  Or are we protecting them?  We had troops in Moscow in 1918 to protect the Czar too...probably why the Russians didn't like us for so long.  

I guess my two boys are safe though.  

I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.

My twenties are still good for that MidEast gasoline down the road...must not be completely bankrupt.

I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month
period.

Sounds like a personal problem.  I've got too many credit cards myself.  Maybe I should apply for a grant, eh?  Who's responsibility is this?  Mine, or Bush...hey, if Edwards can blame it on Bush, maybe I can get a "cash award"...

I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any
administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice,
has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

Sign me up!  Maybe I'd be richer if I hung around rich people?  Maybe they know something....

I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most
corporate campaign donations.

Yet, somehow, Kerry outspent Bush $330 million vs $250 million...

And if he received more donations...maybe it's because he's doing a better job.

I'd expect Mladin to get more money than someone like the Bostrom brothers...

[Super Dave]

Just curious if all the talk I'm hearing about record numbers voting is consistant across the country.

I live in a small community.  We have a building that houses the village and town halls.  I was in and out after dropping the kids off at school very quickly, but the cars lined up outside...it was unbelieveable.

In the county I live in Waukesha County in Wisconsin, apparently we might of had a record...almost 98% of registered voters voted.

[Super Dave]

First, I'll say again, like I have in other posts, I'm not registered as a Republican.

I voted.

I do not think that I have ever lambasted Mr Kerry unless someone wanted to bring up the other side.  Everyone has issues.

Bush should admit mistakes?

Yeah, and would you expect someone on the Yosh team to admit that they completely tuned their bike the wrong way causing them to win a race?  No.  Hey, there might be things that the current adminstration isn't happy with.

No plan in Iraq.  Right.  There's one, but why should anyone need to know it.  If we knew it, then someone that didn't want it to work out would know how to screw it up, right?  Pretty simple.

I went to bed last evening not knowing the outcome.

Got up recognizing that I didn't know what happened.  Regardless, I needed to get up, get ready to go to work and get the family ready for school...Government still doesn't really do that now does it.

I voted how I saw fit.

There are things that Kerry had done that I was in complete disagreement with and things that I held in discust.  I never hated the man.

By this morning, it appeared that there was the opportunity for him to "do the right thing", as some were calling it.  I felt that he would either have the honor and integrity of the man that he was as a Seaman for our country and complete that task...or do otherwise.

I commend him on his decision.

God Bless America.

[r1owner]

Yet, somehow, Kerry outspent Bush $330 million vs $250 million...

This site...
http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/index.asp

seems to say Bush outspent Kerry by 50 million.  Where are you getting your figures?

[Super Dave]

ABC had it on Good Morning America...




There's more internet problems...

Really, you can post anything.  

If it's in text, well, it always looks real.  I can't give good answers.  TV media seems to bomb at times...(CBS?)

The internet really allows the rusty wheels to scream for oil.  In many ways, are we better off with out it?

I know that there is some information that I don't talk about on it, 'cause I just don't want it out.  I'll keep certain secrets...LOL!

[VPFL]

To say that Kerry's healthcare plan was socialized medicine is also crazy!  At least he had a plan that would extend coverage to people who had no chance to get any at all.  

 ::) I dont believe you have ever stood behind someone covered in jewelry in the grocery store-buying steaks with welfare money-then proceeding to their luxury car. Dont tell me I am quoting any 'urban myth' because I see it first hand on a daily basis. Our government run welfare system is a freakin joke!!! What makes you think Government run Health care would be any different?!

[Super Dave]

To say that Kerry's healthcare plan was socialized medicine is also crazy!  At least he had a plan that would extend coverage to people who had no chance to get any at all.  

What was Bush's plan?  Oh yeah, that's right, create a tax shelter to put money in for unexpected medical emergencies.  Sure, the people that can't afford to pay a healthcare premium at all now, can sock away all that extra money into one of those accounts.  ::)

Webster's socialized medicine n (1938)  medical and hospital services for the memebers of aclass or population administerd by an organized group (as a state agency) and paid for from funds obtained usually by assessments, philanthropy, or taxation

Kerry can call it anything it wants, but it still the same thing.

As for health care costing too much...

Which came first the chicken or the egg...

Did doctors increase their prices because or did litigation and insurance costs make it a business decision they had to make?

Similarly, is CCE getting rich with CCS?  Again, have costs risen for racing entries because someone wanted them to or did they go up because of increased litigation and insurance costs?

If Vanson leathers has to pay its workers $20 a hour plus benefits, does that allow them to compete against Dainese very well when the leather portion of their suits are made in South Asian places where there isn't the litigation and insurance costs and workers are paid less than $3 an hour?

I'll agree with VPFL...there are individuals on the welfare books that have things that I don't.  Cable would probably be a start.  I'd like to have it, but I can't afford it.  My car is from 1990.  

Yeah, there are some that really need it....but there is a certain sense of entitlement.

You put hot coffee in your lap, you get burnt.

Oh, the coffee was too hot...  Did you know that coffee is a drink that is hot?  Ok, well, fine.  My extreme "award" would be that one get's their medical bills paid and the company fixes the problem....Really the problem is that an individual customer makes choices, good or bad, when compared to common sense.  

You don't dive into a lake without knowing how deep it is right?  Might be one foot deep.  Why should hot coffee be any different?

Fix that mentality and people won't loose jobs and things will be less expensive.  

Bush wanted to limit litigation stuff right off the bat.  But there's all those lawyers in politics...Anyone name a few?

[mj]

  :'( KC it's sad to say but everything that you have said about Bush is true and cannot be disputed.

[Super_KC124]

Or not? ;D

[Super_KC124]

Oh, and the same can be said about Kerry supporters also. ;) Next election I'm not going to watch any TV and stay away from the internet. ;D

[smoke]

::) I dont believe you have ever stood behind someone covered in jewelry in the grocery store-buying steaks with welfare money-then proceeding to their luxury car. Dont tell me I am quoting any 'urban myth' because I see it first hand on a daily basis. Our government run welfare system is a freakin joke!!! What makes you think Government run Health care would be any different?!

Been there done that!  But the key here is I don't concern my self with them or how they live there life.  I don't care what they have or don't have.  I've been tought that if I want something I have to work for it.

The welfare system does not work? Why... Its a family thing... Kids have been born it seeing how the system works. it works fine for there parents so it will be fine for them.  Yes there are other programs that are there to help people get off welfarebut they don't work either.  There is no true insentive for people to get off welfare.  Oh...  The newest people on welfare were not born in to it.  They lost there jobs and had no other options.


To mix Health care with welfare was just goofy.




SD ---  very  :o :-[ to see you agree comment.  But life goes on.

[Super_KC124]

Please remove this thread. I shouldn't have posted it. :-[