Need some input on this

[cornercamping]

Actually, the reason I am asking here is based on our datalogger thread. It would be a combination of "useable I/O" in this instance, primarily because the guy in the first post doesn't realize that what he's attempting to do is combative with what is technically possible.  He's calling for GPS based speed readings, when it's already available data without adding the cost of GPS.   So, what happened was a few major investors in the company I work for asked about where this is at, and now I have paperwork to do.   The reason I'm asking racers is because the version should our company ever release anything like this would be "open" so it could provide the data you would actually care about on a race track.  Honestly, i don't think that anyone is ready for any of this, but I have investors to please, and if anyone could provide a solid ground for my arguements it would be you guys simply because your not interested in stupid things such as HUD playstation and such.  
I know that racers rarely spend money on luxuries that doesn't provide a better chance of winning a race.  How many of you guys would spend money on a telemetry system let alone a HUD based telemetry application.  Almost none, espeically at the price point of what an application like this would run $ wise on a commerical level.  The point of not giving you a quote is because I want to see what exactly is reasonable so I can prove it's not possible to investors.   You may think that something like this isn't worth $600.00 but what if I told you that $600.00 isn't even close to the $3000.00 price tag at best of what this system would actually run.  My goal is to prove to a bunch of rich people that this whole thing isn't worth a crap, and doing that is the only goal.   I would like to show them that even though you guys are racers, chances are this technology wouldn't sell for your street bike, and a racer would care about more of the data than a street rider.  How many street riders mess with there suspension when they buy a new bike so it's better on the street? NONE usually unless a lowering kit is involved.  How many racers mess with their suspension on their street bike?   See what I'm getting at.  

As far as this being an attempt of being an "attention wh***" hardly.  I'd respond to Sunny if that was the case.   That would make this thread 3 pages of worthless dribble.  ;)

[cornercamping]

and actually in general, who is more likely to be saftey concious?  A racer who's been on the ground, or a moron on a Hyabusa wearing flip flops and a tank top?  

[cornercamping]

Also, has anyone ever seen that vest that is supposed to be worn by motorcyclists both on the street and on the track?  It's supposed to "blow up" and help protect your torso in the event of a crash.  It's a vest that blows up like an airbag when you crash.   It was the hottest thing out according to investors.  Could they work? Yeah, I guess, but I don't and haven't seen a single person at the track wearing one, and a racer is more prone to crash in a weekend or racing than a street rider.  So, why isn't that "awesome device" selling?  Is it a justifable cost to a motorcyclist?

[cornercamping]

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[Super Dave]

HUD's are interesting to me.

BUT...

Let's get specific.  

Yeah, how do you secure it.  It might be part of the shield?

Next...

This is specific to me...

Where would it be located.

I only use one eye.  I have no depth perception.  So, location would be really important.  But is it something that I could even function with?  Either I see the road or I see the HUD?  Not sure.

As for fighter pilots with HUD...they are very specific individuals.  If you have certain physical parameters (one eye doesn't work) you're not even going to be considered for the job.  Riding a motorcycle is a common item, not as common as driving a car in some countries, so you're gonna have a wide range of parameters for use.  

As a racer, ground speed isn't necessarily something that I need to know.  I am a racer, and, in general, I don't need to know the gear I'm in.  I wear ear plugs, so I can actually hear the engine...the tone of the engine gives me a pretty good idea of what RPM's I'm turning.  

It might be useful to some, but as for the viability of it all.  I'm not so sure myself.  Might be an exclusive thing for some, but not for the general riding public at all.

[cornercamping]

HUD's are interesting to me.

BUT...

Let's get specific. Ê

Yeah, how do you secure it. ÊIt might be part of the shield?

Next...

This is specific to me...

Where would it be located.

I only use one eye. ÊI have no depth perception. ÊSo, location would be really important. ÊBut is it something that I could even function with? ÊEither I see the road or I see the HUD? ÊNot sure.

As for fighter pilots with HUD...they are very specific individuals. ÊIf you have certain physical parameters (one eye doesn't work) you're not even going to be considered for the job. ÊRiding a motorcycle is a common item, not as common as driving a car in some countries, so you're gonna have a wide range of parameters for use. Ê

As a racer, ground speed isn't necessarily something that I need to know. ÊI am a racer, and, in general, I don't need to know the gear I'm in. ÊI wear ear plugs, so I can actually hear the engine...the tone of the engine gives me a pretty good idea of what RPM's I'm turning. Ê

It might be useful to some, but as for the viability of it all. ÊI'm not so sure myself. ÊMight be an exclusive thing for some, but not for the general riding public at all.

Well, the HUD would be "adjustable" to be displayed on your visor pretty much wherever you want it, and how big you want it.  If you wanted it in the middle of the visor or in one of the corners, it would be up to the user.  That's one issue that is really questionable in regards to displaying the data on a polycarb as opposed to glass. It's definetly not easy displaying the data on a "flexable" material that has a lower reflection rate.  The whole technical side of things is definetly do-able.  It really comes down to demand, and right now, regardless of the technology availability, the market isn't ready for it as far as I'm concerned.  Although, if something like this was to become a reality and commercially available, it would have to be "open" where the user could set it up so he see's only the data he actually wants to.  I can't see a reason to have speed on there when it comes to the race track, but on the street I could.   I guess it would have to be open enough where the user can configure the data sources.

As far as depth preception...  ???  I have no idea on all that.   :-/  It would definetly be an interesting issue though.    

[Super Dave]

As far as depth preception...  ???  I have no idea on all that.   :-/  It would definetly be an interesting issue though.    

I think my real issue is that the display would have to still allow me the ability to see while using only one eye.  

Sometimes, big bug splats don't give me any grief.

Sometimes, it's like riding blind.  And having the HUD in a place where my eye that doesn't do much good would "see" it...well, that'd just be a waste of electricity then.