636 racers, talk to me...

[racen123]

Go with the zx6rr, slipper clutch and adjustable swingarm pivots, it's such a great handling bike, a little low on power stock though....got one for sale race ready!

[motomadness]

Here's my interpretation of the rule.  If you follow the AMA rules at all, I think it was two years ago that they stopped allowing team to change from the wet stock clutch to the custom/aftermarket dry clutches.  Given that, I would almost assume that the CCS rules could be interpreted similarly.  Therefore, slippers would be allowed, but not a conversion from wet to dry.  I try to get a hold of FUSA's head technical inspector.  He's got the best understanding of the rules.  You could also contact Kevin Hunt, KWS Motorsports (http://www.kwsmotorsports.com/), Crew Chief for Shawn Higbee.  He builds motors for FUSA teams.

[khanson]

Just take it to 4 & 6 Performance in the Chicago area and have Jim computrack and optimize it.  

We roll our bikes out of the hauler at the AMA nationals and they are 95% there and we don't spend all weekend trying to set the them up.

Computracking it will give you the optimal chassis geometry without trying to figure it out on your own.

What's your time and lost contingency worth to you?

[tshowrench]

Once we got our ZX6RR set up, there wasnt much more than one click either way from track to track.

It is a bike that is very gearing sensitive, less so on the 636....

The 636 is a decent platform, and you can convert the slipper clutch for less than $500 from ebay stuff...

[motomadness]

Good point Kevin.  4&6 knows their stuff.  I was just trying to point them to someone I knew who has built several of the recent top FUSA motors.  Although the motors in Denning's and Gill's bikes can definitely lay the smack down on the field.

[Clay]

Well, no use anyways.  The guy backed out.   ::)

If any of you guys would like to trade a race ready r6/600rr/zx-6 for a 929 with lots of goodies (and all the street plastics/tank) then let me know.  :P

[Rrider]

you can convert the slipper clutch for less than $500 from ebay stuff...

by buying used parts and having to remove the engine & split the cases to install the 6RR main shaft, right? At dealer cost, these parts run about $850. Removing the engine and cracking the cases is why there are only a few with a slipper in a 636. Or, I could work harder at selling my kit....

Sorry to hear the deal fell through, Clay. Maybe something else with turn up.

[OmniGLH]

Ask my teammate about his 636.  Bought it new last year, ran 4 weekends on it, and in that time, went through 3 transmissions (yes, three.)  Between the transmission problems (misses the 3-4 and 4-5 upshift a lot, and would not stay in 3rd gear when decelerating), and having a really rough time getting the bike to handle, he wound up parking the bike in the back of the garage and buying an R6.  Never looked back.

A few weeks ago, he decided to send the trans out to get back-cut, and get the bike back together to at least a rideable condition.  We decided to take it down to Barber with us.

After crashing his R6 in T11 in spectacular glory this past weekend... Dan ran his 636 (good thing we brought it!)  After we ripped out all of the suspension stuff someone else put in, put the geometry back to near stock, and took it to Thermosman, he got it handling "ok."  Still not nearly as easy to ride as the R6, I believe "vague" was a word he used to describe the handling.  He was running 1:34s, riding at 60% on the R6.... and running 1:36s, riding at 100% on the Kawi.  

To be fair, I'm SURE that if you spend enough time on the bike, and use a competent suspension guy (such as Thermosman)... you can get the bike handling great. I mean, the Haydens are winning on them, so they can't be all THAT bad.  I think they just take a lot of time and effort to get them dialed in.

The R6 is almost a plug-and-play bike.  Easiest bike to go fast on... at least, that I've ridden.

Dan's 636 is for sale now... email him at dan@kingpinracing.com if you're interested.

Also - if you're looking to swap in the slipper clutch, keep in mind you also have to change the entire shaft the clutch runs on.

[George_Linhart]

Clay,

I am running a 929 this year and so far I have been fairly happy with the handling.  We resprung and valved the front end, put an Ohlins on the rear and dropped the front end 5 mm.  Other than that (and a scotts damper) everything is stock and it seems to handle fine - I certainly don't have any issues with headshake.

If you have any good spares you want to get rid of shoot me an email at gal1970@yahoo.com - I might be interested as I do plan on running the 929 with my white plates next year.  I am confident that the limiting factor is me, not the bike.

George Linhart
CCS #773

[Clay]

Well, I don't know what's gone on with my handling on the bike.  It didn't use to do this.  I'm going to have to take it to GMD to figure this one out.  I don't know if it's something related to the frame or my suspension setup.  It handles fine on smooth tracks, but once you throw in elevation changes and bumps...it gets bad.  :(

[MELK-MAN]

then stop throwing good money after bad.. if you are not all that happy, sell the bike. Put that cash toward a proven bike. GMD could sort you out.. perhaps, but how much is that gonna cost and its still an old 929, not a new mid wt bike.
Yes, forgot about the kawi 636 tranny troubles. I have NEVER had a blister on my big toe. After a couple days at Daytona i had a big one. That friggin thing is the hardest clunkiest tranny i have every had on a bike.
Haydens may win on em, but they are Haydens (ie. FAST AS S**T).. and have a "factory" "stock" 636..

Well, I don't know what's gone on with my handling on the bike.  It didn't use to do this.  I'm going to have to take it to GMD to figure this one out.  I don't know if it's something related to the frame or my suspension setup.  It handles fine on smooth tracks, but once you throw in elevation changes and bumps...it gets bad.  :(