Kinda scary...

[tigerblade]

http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82995&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

[r6_philly]

I hate lawsuits, but thats gotta be one... people needs to be more responsible when it comes to other people's safety. If the guy can't be found after the session, they need to find him before continueing, especially there are corners that are not manned. If I know someone is following me trying to go faster than he normally does, I would keep an eye out for him while we are riding. Lastly if the corner is not covered, it needs to be inspected/paid attention too between sessions.

I feel bad for the guy and wish he recovers. Also hope they organizers shape up and change how they run the day, before someone is lost.

[K3 Chris Onwiler]

GAAAAAAAA!!!!!!  I talked about exactly that during the corner worker controversy we had a few weeks ago.  I think I said something about hoping they go out to look for you after they notice you didn't pack up your trailer at the end of the day.  Eerily prophetic, and I don't like being that kind of prophet at all.

Don't take me wrong, but I hope this settles once and for all just how Gol Dang important corner workers are!  If it takes a few extra bucks, charge a few extra bucks.  And for God's sake, do what it takes to retain good, experienced workers.
I have been known to occasionally drop off a case or two of cold beer to the corner worker party when I'm flush.  Other guys have done that or more.  Nick Manske throws the workers a party each year.  I think more people should reach out once in awhile.

[cornercamping]

 :o  I just read all 26 pages.  That sucks  :o  Thank god for the cornerworkers.  I'd hate to be where that guy was.  Just thinking about it makes me sick  :(  I know I'd pay extra for cornerworks, no question.  I've cornerworked, and it isn't fun anymore when someone goes down.  :(

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

Scary isnt it? Honestly why couldnt have 1 person at every station. As Camping said, a few more dollars per rider isnt that much so something like this never happens again.

[tshowrench]

Polen was at the track day, told me the story this am. I guess the guy was missing for about 20 min, broken up but ok...

Tip your cornerworkers, and dont ride over your head at a track day.

[cstem]

This is a horrible story and nearly a horrible tragedy. We have a couple of track day groups here in Phoenix, and while they do things differently than us at CCS, they do it pretty safely most of the time (was not always this way).  To all riders/racers, remember if you do not feel safe at a track day stop going.  I know riders that will continue to go because "there is no where else to ride".  If enough people make the noise, or lack of noise with bikes, the track day organizer in question will hopefully address this situation.  I am curious to see how many people continue to use that particlular track day after this. Hey Kevin, maybe it is time to move back in on Thunderhill? ;)

[racen123]

Back to T-Hill it is! In Arizona they may run track days well but don't let anyone know when they are cancelled.

[cornercamping]

Anyone know how many people hold a valid CCS race license?  Novice and Expert, all regions?  2K people?

[Dawn]

Anyone know how many people hold a valid CCS race license?  Novice and Expert, all regions?  2K people?

Contact CCS directly, they should be able to provide that information.

Dawn  :)

[KBOlsen]

There's another org out there that requires racers to cornerwork before being eligible to turn Expert.

I'm hard pressed to think of valid reasons why this wouldn't be a good idea.

[cornercamping]

Each racer should pay $50.00 a year, for the cornerworker fund. If there are 2000 racers between all regions, that = $100,000.00 to pay for cornerworkers.  That is more than enough to pay for cornerworkers at every round, at every single corner or where needed for each race track.  It's not asking too much.  The money left over every year should go twards airfences.

I don't know about you guys, but $50.00 is a minimal fee to ensure our saftey.  Hell,  I'd pay $100.00.   Yeah, we pay for this and that, but when it comes down to it:

NOBODY is responsible for YOUR saftey but yourself.  You personally have to insure that you will be safe.  If you don't care about it, don't show up to the track.  Don't wanna pay $50.00 a year, don't show up.  Sounds kind of mean, but it's the truth.  If there is a shortage of available cornerworks, send your wife, girlfriend, or whatever out there.  Someone even if not properly trained is better than nobody. Tell them that since they are watching, they can get one of the best seats on the track for free. Just tell them that if someone crashes there, push the button on the radio and say someone crashed, atleast that way it can be handled by race control or other corners. I bet that guy in the above link would have been happy and better off if even a 10 year old was there that could have made some noise to let people know.  SOMETHING is better than nothing.   And yes, I have corner worked.  WERA GNF last year.  What a circus. But hey, it worked out, and everything was safe.