Couple new rule ideas for next year.

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

After this weekend cornerworking at BHF and listening to all the calls. I thought a few ideas for next year.

1. Transmitters (transponders, beepers, or whatever you want to call them. ;D) should have a STANDARD mounting location. Lots of calls on the radio asking if there was one on the bike. Instead of just letting them mount them wherever they like, make it a rule that they have to be mounted on TOP of the tail withing 6" front to aft of the rear axle.


2. Practice groups. Quite a few guys were running 2 practice groups per session when they are supposed to only do one. Maybe have tech write 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 (MW practice groups, other areas might be different). Then pit out should be able to catch the ones trying to get extra practice (unless you clear it with race director).

Ya know just a couple ideas. I know one racer who was told it was ok and another that got chewed this weekend for the doing 2 groups.

[Burt Munro]

Rob,

I understand what you're getting at with point #1.
It would make it easier to spot whether or not a bike was missing it's transmitter.  

I think the problem on some bikes locating the transmitter UNDER the tail section is due to using carbon body work.  From what I know it tends to interfer with the signal getting picked up consistantly.

And beyond that I'm sure one or two people have mounted them under the tail section because it's looks cool. (i.e., not specifically due to carbon interference.)

It would be great though if a 'universally standard' location could be adopted.

Rick

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

There was a ducati 996/748 that had carbon pipes and had it mounted on top and was apparently registering fine. And as for carbon bodywork, I've seen ONE bike in 5 yrs with it. ;D

[gpracer171]

It is and should be possible that if a racer is paying to race in several classes that have separate practices, he should be allowed to race in a couple of practices. If they continue to break practice by class entry, it will remain this way. If however they simple make if odd/even expert and Amatuer, then ther would be no proble and no sticker beyong the number plate needed.

Mike

PS, I am not one of the guys who runs multiple practices

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

It is and should be possible that if a racer is paying to race in several classes that have separate practices, he should be allowed to race in a couple of practices. If they continue to break practice by class entry, it will remain this way. If however they simple make if odd/even expert and Amatuer, then ther would be no proble and no sticker beyong the number plate needed.

Mike

PS, I am not one of the guys who runs multiple practices

Then why do they tell many of us you cant , then tell other they can? But yet someone with a 750 and R6 who signs up for mwss, mwsb, hwss, hwssb, gto, ulss and ulgp still is only allowed in 1 preactice group. Cant run lightweight/thunderbike/singles practice (group 5 in teh MidWest) with a 750 or R6. But yet a guy on a SV can run both groups theoretically (they can run in am odd and even groups 1&2 (250GP, MW, HW, UL, ST) because they are twins). SO I guess next year I should run both am even group because my bike is classified as a middleweight and group 5 because its Thunderbike legal too. I know Bill will say something to me about that. ::) LIke I was told before, if I want extra practice, theres a CCS racer only practice on Friday.

[Burt Munro]

Rob,

Every time that I've worked Tech and there was a separate practice session for LW/Thunder/Sgl we asked the riders of bikes that would potentially be legal in two practice sessions which group they wanted to practice in.  They were then given the appropriate Tech sticker for that group.  This should eliminate people from doing multiple practice sessions.  The only exception that I'm aware of would be isolated cases where two riders were racing the same bike in different classes.

OT but interesting - Splitting practice groups by Odd and Even numbers you would think would divide the sessions fairly evenly.   NOT!  Last Blackhawk there were huge variances - like 10 in the even group and 28 in the odd.  Law of averages would tell you that it should be pretty close to a 50/50 split.  Guess it's all those guys trying to run #69!

[EM JAY]

 What if I'm running two different bikes?  One in the Ultralight and the other in lightweight classes?  I've been having to choose which bike to favour for practice?

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

Rob,

Every time that I've worked Tech and there was a separate practice session for LW/Thunder/Sgl we asked the riders of bikes that would potentially be legal in two practice sessions which group they wanted to practice in.  They were then given the appropriate Tech sticker for that group.  This should eliminate people from doing multiple practice sessions.  The only exception that I'm aware of would be isolated cases where two riders were racing the same bike in different classes.

When I go through tech on sat, they've put the pink (I assume its for lightweight/thunderbike practice) sometimes and the middleweight sticker on others. Since I race thunderbikes on sat, I practice with them. When I race on sunday, I run in the regular am group.


Mike, hopefully next year I'll have 2 bikes to play with. My F2 and my YZF750. I did that once and got a little chat with Bill about this, but yet some people are "apparently" getting permission to run multiple practices. I guess thats what bothers me.

[Nate R]

Rob, when you say you've only seen one bike in 5 years with carbon bodywork on it, do you mean carbon that's visible?

There may be more than you think. Just painted carbon.  I myself have seen more than 2 this year.

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

Not saying there isnt any more. I just seen one CF duc tail there. Maybe CCS could station someone at pit out to check for transmitters. Dont know how well that would go over.

[r1owner]

At the last BHF race, there was a dude standing right there at pit out.  ???

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

No I mean another guy that specifically looks for the little yellow box. ;D ;D ;D