C'mon CCS!

[Chuck]

The more I spend the louder my voice will be?  What does that mean?  I attend all Great plains events, and am competing for 3 championships.  Do I need to race every race and go for total points championship (the bought one) to be heard?   ???

I'll shut up and race I guess...for the rest of this year anyway.

[speedster_1]

If WERA had a AM liter bike class I wouldn't be here....  :(  I just want registrations and points to be done in a timely manner....not too much to ask????

[K3 Chris Onwiler]

Oh.  This subject again. ::)  I really want do do more endurance racing.  As a result, I have been bouncing from club to club, and the grass seems greener EVERYWHERE.  
Drive 12 hours on your last nickel, only to find that they've lost your pre-entries.  Borrow $20 apiece from everybody you know to enter the races a second time, start at the back and lose a championship over it.  (Still better than a flight, Thorny...)  Have this happen repeatedly, to the point where you pre-enter for next race at regestration and have the regestrar zerox and sign a copy for you so that you can PROVE you were pre-entered.  
There's plenty of other stuff, too.  Ever build a bike to a set of rules that no longer read that way, then show up for the first race to discover that the tech inspector has the one and only copy of the new rules?  Sorry you spent all that money, but your bike isn't legal/competitive/class doesn't exist any more.  Sure, we could have told you in November, December, January, or Febuary, but isn't this more fun?  Call to get rules clarification?  Anyone who personally knows me also knows how badly THAT can bite you in the ass...  (But at least KE was a perfectly honest gentleman about that situation.) 
This would be about my third year on the message board, and the tenth time this has come up, at least.  Thorny is right.  Talk is cheap if you keep spending your money.  Call me every dirty name in the book, but if you keep handing me money I won't try to stop you, and neither will CCS.  From what I've seen, the CCS staff is dedicated and hard working.  There just aren't enough of them.  That would be Clearchannel's fault.

[pnther15]

I'm with Chuck on this one!!!  I did my first CRA at MAM this weekend and if they were closer more often CCS would never see my money again!  

How many weeks has it been since they updated points???  Check this out, this is how it should be done!!!!!!!!!!!  

http://64.176.35.1/cgi-bin/Ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?s=f7db5ba9cb95e6016fccc9f08187ba84;act=ST;f=2;t=2205

[r1owner]

Check this out, this is how it should be done!!!!!!!!!!!  

http://64.176.35.1/cgi-bin/Ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?s=f7db5ba9cb95e6016fccc9f08187ba84;act=ST;f=2;t=2205

Aw man, I have to register to see that.  That organization sucks too! ;)

[Chuck]

I didn't know Clear Channel dictated how many people worked for CCS.  If that's the case I'll direct all my negitivity to them next time, because the manner in which CCS has been operating is un acceptable.  As Stumpy said if I ran my business like this I'd be bankrupt.  Is under staffing really the issue?  When I go to the track I see CCS people everywhere.

[r1owner]

I agree Chuck, CCE/CCS has terrible customer service!  At Gateway, when the old track dude got up and said "Deal with it" (for back to back races) I wanted to tell him to F.O.  Even though I didn't have any back to backs!

The race director at least was like "We'll work with you."  That old dude need to go!

Also, someone mentioned airfence being moved.   I know they had extra hay bales as I saw them when coming in for registration.

They lady tried to tell me my online registration wasn't there.  They didn't have my name on the sheet, but luckily I happened to get a glimpse (as she was thumbing through them) of my SSN.  I had printed out my reservation number so I was not going to take no for an answer.

I agree about the timeliness of their responses (understaffing makes that understandable), but damn there are computers available to make the registration process so much easier.  SSN, key it in, check off which races you want on the screen, pay and be gone.

That could then feed the system that sets up the grids.  These systems could be written for very little.  If I was in CCS and CCE was not giving me much staff, I'd be budgeting 10/20K to get something written to make my life easier at the track.

[pnther15]

the link was a post on the CRA website...it's a guy that was updating the website after each race.  They already have  the results, lap times, and points on the website....  $60 for a license, and $25 sprints/ $35 Trophydash (30 min race).

Dave

[ecumike]

the link was a post on the CRA website...it's a guy that was updating the website after each race.  They already have  the results, lap times, and points on the website....  $60 for a license, and $25 sprints/ $35 Trophydash (30 min race).

Dave

We do that for the USGPRU series. It's my (unofficially dubbed) "Same Day Scoring System". I built/coded the pages and database. We can post results from the track, live. Just need a phone line to dial up and log into the Web site.
Instantly as times are entered for qualifying, and results are posted, points are automatically calculated for each region and for the National Championship.

Take a look.. www.usgpru.net/results.php
and www.usgpru.net/standings.php
and www.usgpru.net/riders.php

AND we made rider profiles, that are tied into the results and standings. It's a nice little integrated system.

This can be tailored for CCS, with some modification and extra coding.

[Chuck]

These are great solutions, and a whole lot better than "pay, ride, and smile" or "money speaks louder than words".  I don't want to abandon CCS by not participating I want them to fix the problem.  

Scott would you be against me offering your services for a small fee?  How easy is it to implicate?  Who would I talk to about getting something started?

Sorry for the ranting, I'm just a new guy that is in disbelief about how difficult they make posting points sound.

[tzracer]

I didn't know Clear Channel dictated how many people worked for CCS. ÊIf that's the case I'll direct all my negitivity to them next time, because the manner in which CCS has been operating is un acceptable. ÊAs Stumpy said if I ran my business like this I'd be bankrupt. ÊIs under staffing really the issue? ÊWhen I go to the track I see CCS people everywhere.

CCS has very few full time employees, probably 5 or less. Most of the people you see at the track are not full time employees, they are local people that run the races. Those people have regular jobs to go to on Monday, just like most racers.

[motomadness]

I've been on this forum for more than two seasons and I can tell this topic has come up several times, as K3 has said.  Many people have offered their services for free and for a minimal fee, and as far as I know, nothing has happened.  

I think the person to contact on this matter is not Kevin Elliot.  I think you should contact Kenneth Abbot.  If you can get Ken to buy in on your idea and from more of a CCE point of view, then maybe when it gets presented to Kevin, it presents a better package to CCS.  

In my opinion, FUSA is the only thing CCE really cares about from a marketing and promotional view.