Hey Mr. Goodwrench's.....

[cornercamping]

A friend of mine just bought a new Aprilia RSV Mille Factory. This will be a race bike.  He is going to take it to Grattan on Monday, and the bike has 0 miles on it.  While doing the usual WATTER WETTER (the RIGHT stuff to use)  ::) and regular track prep., we had a small discussion of break in oil.  So, we put 10 heat cycles on the bike, changed the tires and coolant, and now it's time for a oil change.  He says Dyno/Break In Oil for the first 200 miles, and I say just use synthetic.  What do you think?  All oils except natural (Mobil) are going to be an Amsoil product.  So...

Amsoil Dyno/Break In Oil
Mobil Natural
Amsoil V-Twin Oil

Whatcha' think... ;D

[K3 Chris Onwiler]

The day is over for everybody if you get synthetic oil on the track.  The stuff just won't clean up.  Synthetic track oilers run the risk of being the guest of honor at a blanket party...

[cornercamping]

HUH?  ???  Watcha' talkin' bout Wills  ???  MOTOROIL ?  What kind of motoroil, not coolant.  We only use WATTER WETTER on the track for coolant  ;) ;D

[Eric Kelcher]

Syn oil is harder to clean up then Propylene Gycol and causes more issues of getting on track than any coolant. ::) PG cleans up very fast very easily and rarely gets on race surface without other more serious fluids already being laid down. Properly prepping a bike, removing Ethylgycol, and adding PG,Water, waterwetter; installing side covers as required and careful maintainance is the best prevention of having any fluids on the track; well that and keeping a bike upright  ;)

[cornercamping]

Syn oil is harder to clean up then Propylene Gycol and causes more issues of getting on track than any coolant. ::) PG cleans up very fast very easily and rarely gets on race surface without other more serious fluids already being laid down. Properly prepping a bike, removing Ethylgycol, and adding PG,Water, waterwetter; installing side covers as required and careful maintainance is the best prevention of having any fluids on the track; well that and keeping a bike upright Ê;)

 ???  You completely lost me.  I am talking about motor oil, not coolants.  I am talking about what type of motor oil to use to break in the motor on it's maiden run. You are talking about coolant  ???

[Eric Kelcher]

.  While doing the usual WATTER WETTER (the RIGHT stuff to use)  ::) and regular track prep., we had a small discussion of break in oil.  

[Super Dave]

Break in?

You have to use dyno oil.

I, personally, use John Deere Break In oil when I'm breaking it in.

At a place like Daytona, I'll probably run it fair on the first session, a little harder on the second, and then the third...well, wide open then go to the dyno.  

Could change to synthetic after that, if you wish.

The important thing is to focus on deacceleration while doing break in...

Care to offer any conclusions on that?
I like a good oil change in there between all those three sessions.

[cornercamping]

Right, sorry for the confusion.  I meant motoroil.  I know that watter wetter/water is the only thing to use for coolant.

[cornercamping]

Break in?

You have to use dyno oil.

I, personally, use John Deere Break In oil when I'm breaking it in.

At a place like Daytona, I'll probably run it fair on the first session, a little harder on the second, and then the third...well, wide open then go to the dyno. Ê

Could change to synthetic after that, if you wish.

The important thing is to focus on deacceleration while doing break in...

Care to offer any conclusions on that?
I like a good oil change in there between all those three sessions.

He wants to spend $10.00 a quart on Amsoil Dyno/Break In oil.   ::)

[Super Dave]

What ever makes him happy.

I would use Shell Rotella T if I didn't have the Deere Oil...they are similar.

I use Evans cooland in my diesel bus...and I use a PG product in my bike too...

The air in the tires is pretty standard local issue stuff.

[cstem]

I personnally like to use Japanese OEM air ( we told a kid his Honda needed that in grade school!!).

Synthetic oil on a track bike is a waste in my view.  It shoudl be changed after every weekend anyway.  Castrol GTX is my favorite.  There was a spec racer series for cars a few years ago that ran Castrol and they lasted well.  Synthetic is also hard to remove from the race course after a spill like Eric said.  I agree with the break in idea of Dave though.  If I were your buddy, I would tell him to save his money by buying conventional oil and buying premium oil filters and lunch for us for giving him   this advice.

[Protein Filled]

I agree with the Shell Rotella T that Dave mentioned. It's priced well and works great on a race bike.