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Transition from brakes to lean???HELP

Started by Racingxtc7, May 08, 2004, 04:13:27 PM

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Racingxtc7

What I've bee doing is letting off the brake about a second before my turn in point then using the throttle settle the chassis(get the wieght balanced) then turning in. I'm using matance throttle til the apex (usless I've entered the turn to slow in which case I'm on the gas sooner) and then I'm rolling the throttle on and I'm wide open before I'm completely up right. Do I need to get the chassis settled before turn in? How the bike react to this? being that all the weight in on the front. I'm curious because this would save me almost a second each turn. Can I turn in still on the brakes? If so, how did when you go to matance throttle? I could use some HELP? in as much detail as humanly posible.

Jeff

cuda

You can turn in on the brakes fine, just make sure you let off before you tuck the front and crash.  :)

Seriously, trail braking is a thing you just gotta keep getting a little better at (like every other aspect of racing) through practice.  I do it a little more each time I race.  It just depends on how well I am riding.  Just remember to brake a little less the more you lean, and I recommend NO brake at the most lean but I am sure some good riders can have a little anywhere.  

In order to really use it though, you have to be braking later because you don't want to do it just for giggles.  Gas good, brakes bad so don't trail brake if you can make the turn without it.  Keep as much speed as you can and you will go a lot faster (duh).      

K3 Chris Onwiler

Be sure to shift your body weight to "hanging off" position while going down the straight, well before you brake.  Shifting your weight as you brake or while you brake unsettles the bike.  I got 2 seconds a lap from this.  If it works for you, send Dave Rosno $100, or better yet, take one of his Visionsports schools. ;D
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MELK-MAN

i think if your able to get on the gas some time before the apex, your not going as fast as you could to that point and the turn can be taken faster.
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bmfgsxr

many corners are different and require different treatment. for instance, a downhill turn you dont really want to be doing much trailbraking as the front will already be pretty well loaded up. and going uphill you can not only rely on the hill slowing you down, but you can trail brake a little more if need be. but lets take a flat turn for instance like t1 at vir. ill do almost all my braking while straight up and down and get my body in position before turn in, and as i lay the bike into the turn im equally letting off the brakes so that by the time im at full lean im all the way off the brakes. so the further i lean it over the more i let off the brakes. ideally i should be at max lean, and fully off the brakes just at the apex, and immediately on the gas there after. it doesnt always work out that well, but i try. as soon as im at max lean i crack the throttle just to keep the front from being overloaded(i learned the hard way many times my first year of racing from tucking the front by not doing this)