Coolant PoLL !!!

[MELK-MAN]

Engine Ice, ice baby.... run water at WeRA events...

[Litespeed]

I think to simplify things we should ban all liquids.  Everyone will need to bring their bicycles to the next race and camelbacks/water bottles will not be allowed.  If there is any issues with liquids on the track at that race the next one will require all riders to have all fluids drained prior to race time.  NOw we can be assured of not worrying about any fluids on the track.

This is just an example of what happens if you go radically the other dricetion in this debate...

[GSXR RACER MIKE]

     As far as "just riding thru water" goes, I believe that in almost all 7 races I was in at RA over the weekend I saw at least 1 racer go down due to a damp track surface (most of the time under the bridges).

     As far as water not being a problem in colder climates, would you please come and replace the engine in my '96 GSXR 750 for me, it froze and popped the freeze plugs in weather that never got below 27*.

     And I will repeat again that I don't understand why coolant lines and overflow tanks are allowed to go anywhere other than a fluid retaining lower in the bodywork? This seems like so obvious of a solution to the oil or coolant issues that it shouldn't even be a topic. If the bike was set-up correctly to catch the fluids, then the chances of fluid getting on the track would be minor and limited to very small amounts of overspray in limited cases. Am I really off base with this assumption or is large amounts of fluid still going to get on the track if overflows had been placed as described above?

[cornercamping]

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 Ê Ê As far as water not being a problem in colder climates, would you please come and replace the engine in my '96 GSXR 750 for me, it froze and popped the freeze plugs in weather that never got below 27*.

Then put antifreeze in it in the future, and flush it before you go out on the track.  Once your done at the track, replace again with antirfeeze.  Takes 10 minutes.  


This is what everyone seems to be missing:

REGARDLESS of what the rulebook says HAS to be done, we as the people that are putting our lives at risk, need to make sure to correctly prepare our motorcycles.  This includes, but is not limited to:

1. Routing all overflow hoses, ect. to the catch can/fluid retention correctly.  This goes for anything that can leak, including hoses, resivoirs (sp?) ect.  

2. To run the MINIMUM requirments regarding coolants and other fluids that have the potential to add danger, to keep the bike operational.

3. To make sure that our bikes are prepared correctly and do not cause a hazard or a POTENTIAL hazard to others.

4. To make that we do EVERYTHING possible as a responsible adult to keep ourselves and others  protected for any additional dangers.

Now, regardless of what the rulebook states, everyone knows what's safe and what's not.  We're not a bunch of kids that haven't done this before.  Everyone knows damn well what causes additional dangers on the racetrack.  All anyone is asking is to do your part to make it safe for yourself and others.  So far, anything but water and watter wetter is an ADDITiONAL hazard that is not needed.  Who cares how much less or more, it doesn't matter.  It's still more than water and watter wetter.  Find something better than water and watter wetter that doesn't increase the potential for disaster, and I'm sure both WERA and all the other orgs., will be happy to allow it.  Hell, someone may come out with something in a few years and watter wetter won't be allowed anymore.  But, right now, it's the safest combo.  
Geez, nobody is asking anyone to ruin your bike, or cause any damage.  If you choose to live in colder climates, than you have to deal with it.  I do, and haven't had a problem, and it's not really that big of a deal.  It takes 10 minutes to flush coolant and replace.   It's not like anyone is requesting a full motor tear down.   If you have to, keep regular antifreeze in the bike till the morning your race, and then when your all done, replace it back with antifreeze.  Takes 10 minutes.  You can recycle the antifreeze over and over again.   Anything else is just an excuse.  You take the 10 minutes to change tires, oil, airfilters, ect., but you won't take the 10 minutes to replace the coolant with water  ???

[251am]

 Say there cornercamper,
are you gonna follow through on those Dunlops to replace my Avons or was that just a sham? Wasn't  it you offering free Dunnys? What gives?  :-/

[cornercamping]

Say there cornercamper,
are you gonna follow through on those Dunlops to replace my Avons or was that just a sham? Wasn't Êit you offering free Dunnys? What gives? Ê:-/

Yeah, it was me.  Sorry, I'm still waiting to change them out.  Tire machine at the local shop has some issues i guess  ???  I'll make sure you get them.  Didn't forget about ya.  My bike's been on the stands for a while now.  I'm gonna call and complain tomorrow if they don't call me. I'll send you a PM when they ship.

[Jeff]

Yawn...

You know what I run, and why I run it.  Whether you can understand it or not, that's me...

Change the rule and I'll change my coolant.  

Until then.....


My God people...  Next you'll be lobbying that there should be no lappers in an AMA or CCS race.

[KBOlsen]

Maybe races JUST for lappers? :D

[cornercamping]

Maybe races JUST for lappers? :D

Already exsists.  It's called the novice class  ;D  There wouldn't be any lappers if they didn't force people to bump up to expert, but we're done with that arguement.  That was last week.  This weeks arguement is coolant.  Next week, it's why you have to wear a helmet  ::) ;D :P :-X

Stay on topic  ;D

[251am]

 You mean I could have the track all to my self??!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


BTW-Thanks corner on the Dunnys

[cornercamping]

You mean I could have the track all to my self??!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
 

Yup, right after everyone else crashes out from the puddle of coolant at the Apex of turn 1  ;D :-X ;D ;)

[ecumike]

.... Next week, it's why you have to wear a helmet  ::) ;D :P :-X

WHAT!?! You mean we HAVE to wear a helmet?  Can we wear those litlte brain buckets? I mean, the harley guys do :P