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CCS SHOULD GRID BY POINT DO ALL AGREE!!

Started by casper_881, September 09, 2002, 03:17:23 PM

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casper_881

Well I think that ccs should start gridding by points
It will keep the regular rider comming back and we should get some kind of perk for being there week in and week out other than Wood not everyone gets woood and this would help mix it up a bit .
Next point just cuz some of the racers have money :D :D :D :does not mean they should be up front there are some rider with money that should not be up front cuz it is just to dangerous at the start !
if we where to do it by points it would keep the faster guys and gals up front and the not so fast guy and gals in the back !
so the more you ride the better you get and the better grids you will have I think that would be a nice reward for all the money spent and time some of us put in to the ccs org.
Plus then the number 1 plate would be  won and not bought this means that the best rider gets it not the richest !  
We all work very hard all year round and make many sacrifices to do the sport we love !
so make it fair for everyone isn't that what everyone is allways talking about anyways!
My last and finall point !!!!!!!!!
Tiffiny and Kevin and the rest of the hard working CCS people would no longer have to get an ear full about lost pre reg.cuz for the most part you could look on the points pages and figure out where you will be gridded from race to race !
If WERA can do it soo can CCS! lets let them know what you think and write in ! pluse I would like your imput!! thanks Casper!!!!!!!!! :-/ :-/

Numbskullz113

I agree, that way I will always be gridded ahead of you in HW sportsman... :o :o :o

casper




WHAT PLACE DID YOU TAKE THIS WEEKEND i TOOK THIRD AND YOU WHERE


                        FORTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

     AND FOR A CHANGE I WAS TRYING NOT TO BE A SMART ASS EDGER!!!!!!!!

am125ike

i'll tell you all.....
david vaughn is top 3 am in three regions, and is not always able to pre-register, ive seen him grided so far back that i'd be afraid (and have been) to launch too hard with "unstable creatures" "horded" in front of me, i personaly made a narrow escape of a green flag collision, and the next few green flags just werent the same (i eased off the line)(and thats not racing).
dave can get around slower people, and under them (  ;D ) if you know dave..
but if we're speaking fair, YES, i vote to grid by points.........
to me, it's almost RESPECTABLE, these guys are the best we got, if we dont qualify by times for grid, and the better guy shows up, he shouldnt be behind someone who just finished school last month and is turning 10 seconds slower, think about it.... i feel like ive earned the right to grid in front of anyone slower than me, and i dont want to cheat someone who is faster than me out of a grid spot, (if theres an error  ::)  then i may not say anything if it works in my favor ;D ) i think you got the right one baby, i mean, casper pooh.
oops, did i let the cat out??????

ok, ok im joking!!!!!  just dont put that ghost on me, IT WAS A JOKE !

Dawn

Casper and Edgar...

When are you guys going to become experts?!?!  The competition is getting so intense in here.   :o
If it keeps up like this, the other amatures will be afraid to race with you!

Dawn   ;)

Numbskullz113

Hey, I had second in the bag until the engine started to not want to run...I later found bad gas with sugar in the gas tank :P

I think I will become expert once I am done taking the HW sportsman championship from Casper  :D :D :D


CaSpEr_Dude

sugar in you r gas what ever!!! Edger no one put sugar in your gas  it is not that important to to beet by doing somthing as stupid as that if the comp.was that bad I would have to stoop to that level I would find another hobbie.
Just like when you gave me that bent crack that fed up my motor right before midd America and I had to use someone else bike and yhat was the same time you took the lead sooooo I f you want to re live all that siznit we can !!!! >:( >:( >:( >:(

skydiver19

I for one agree that gridding should be done by points, but know that it's a lost cause.  This topic has been debated ad nauseum for at least the 4 years I've been involved with racing, if not more, and CCS has chosen to stick with the pre-registration format.  Look back a month or two on this very forum and you'll see a similair thread that generated significant response from the racing community.  

To my knowledge CCS has never specified their objections to gridding by points or at least provided sound reasoning as to why they feel the current format is the best.  My opinion on why it will never change..... CCS can do a lot more with the money they force you to pay months in advance than they can waiting until race day.  Plus, how much money would CCS lose on rain weekends alone ?  Go through tech on a sunny Saturday morning and you're not getting a dime back on a rainy Sunday. (when you'll likely have several races)  Under the current format they've got your money whether you take your grid spot or not.  Allow post registration but grid by points and they'd never see a lot of it.  I pre-register because I have to in order to be at the front of the grid. I'm out close to $500 this season on pre-registered races I did not run because I choose not to race in the rain.  Even skipping all of those races I'm 2nd in points in 5 different classes.  

If CCS gridded by points, I'd still be doing well in the points, but be $500 richer.

There are valid arguments for both formats, all of which are clearly irrelevent.  It comes down to $$$.  You've got it, CCS wants it and they want it a.s.a.p.  We've all heard (or said) the following, " Next year I'm going to pre-register for the whole season in January."  And somewhere, an accountant for CCS smiles.

  

CaSpEr_Dude

Well david is the better rider so if he can still win from the back then he should not have a problem  with it and as far as being a fraid of a faster rider passing you ! well then ???? he is a very good rider and you should trust him as such !
well then why not stay faithfull to one club !
I know it is a money  thing but if they are that good and they can come from the back and win they will still earn more points than your last months grad
do you like these cherry pickers taking your money cuz they are if they are faithfull to our club then fine theres the money but they are putting half the money into it and taking all of it !
and guys like David V well most likely lap the slower guys anyway so where is the wash i would rather be past at the line than at the finish where there speeds are even faster after coming the whole straight rather than 1/4 of the straight!!it can work!

CaSpEr_Dude

I agree but nothing changes when nothing is done Right !!!!
they say at every riders meeting to write them with your ideas right! so do it he says they really do read them well then write ! if every one writes in then they will know if you don't they will not know what we want.
and as far as the weather thing all I can say is the weather channel lol.
this club is growing faster every year and I do not think it will start go south any time soon! they can aford it so speek your peace!if it was not for us where would they be they would't!!!so write them and write them often

CaSpEr_Dude

QuoteHey, I had second in the bag until the engine started to not want to run...I later found bad gas with sugar in the gas tank :P

I think I will become expert once I am done taking the HW sportsman championship from Casper  :D :D :D

so Edgar are you saying you are a gas exspert now you where able to test it at the track what did you do drink it !!!and if you did then you need to talk to Tim chin he needs you to test for ox. in the gas that he wantd to outlaw

Xian_13

Lets face facts...
This last weekend was my very first race (not including the racer school race).
The last thing you want, is to have some one like me at the front of the pack, when I am not ready for it. The fact of the matter is, I should be in the back... end of story. The first few rows should be who deserves to be there, not who gets their money in first.
I was shocked when I found out how gridding was done. I do understand peole that can't make every race might be upset, making it harder for them to get good spots. Lets face it though, is a guy only making a few races a year, the guy you want to worry about having a bad launch on the start?
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