DAYTONA 200

[Team_nuclear123]

BTW.. Yates was running a two stop race, and the other three in front of him were all on three... Yates would have been in P1 after they stopped, if he could hold it was another matter...

The assult charge wont amount to anything, but his contract with Yosh and Suzuki is for sure in jepordy...

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BTW.. Yates was running a two stop race, and the other three in front of him were all on three... Yates would have been in P1 after they stopped, if he could hold it was another matter...

BS. It was on lap 49 of 57. None of the leaders pitted after the incident, he was in 4th and wasn't going to do any better. He took himself out. And he's done the same s h i t of taking riders front tires out in open practice. Where his "multi hundred thousand dollar bonus" wasn't a factor.

Yates is an ass. It's been shown again. He can deny all he wants but he kicked the guy in the BACK while he was getting up. It just shows what little respect he has for other riders.

[funksouljon]

This is driving me crazy. It would be battery, not assault.

[cstem]

I do not want to hear about "lappers" and how they decide the race.  In the 200, a lapper is pretty much anyone that has no quick change set-up.  That is 3/4 of the grid! No one is going to sit and watch a 12 rider race where 5 finish.  No "lappers"- no 200.

[OmniGLH]

Good races today.

Yates.  Uy.  I'm a Yates fan - and am pretty disappointed in his actions today.  I can understand his frustration - but to carry on in the manner he did, it really wouldn't shock me to lose his ride.  

EDIT - from watching the tape, it didn't seem to ME like Yates caused the crash.  Myself (and those of us who were watching) felt that the lapper was already headed off the track, like he over-cooked the corner, and that Yates had just made a poor decision to pass on the outside.  But now, after reading the article someone posted a link to above, I don't know if that's the case anymore.  It seems like there is an awful lot of he-said-she-said going on - Yates is TOTALLY backing down ("I didn't really kick him" - YA YOU DID!!!)  But it also seems like a little bit of dramatization from the lapper as well.  At any rate - Yates is (and should be) hosed.  Not cool of him.  Not at all.

E-Boz.  Three  words:  typical Ducati junk.  Would have been nice to see Michelin take the win.  E-Boz was definitely out-riding everyone on the track IMO.  Hopefully Ducati Austin can build a motor that will hold together for the remaining rounds - I'd like to see him and Michelin do well.

Supersport race was pretty sweet though!  Got it on Tivo - that'll get plenty of airplay at my house!

[Jeff]

Regardless of how many times the lapper was passed, the fact still remains that Yates made a STUPID move.  You don't EVER pass a lapper on the outside going INTO a turn.  That was about as boneheaded as Scott Russell walking his bike sideways across the grid before being t-boned into retirement.

File this under sh1t you just don't do...

Yates then went on to a second idiot move with the physical altercation afterwards.  I can understand the utter anger, disappointment and frustration, but you just plain don't get physical...  Have some restraint...

It'll be interesting to see how AMA handles this one.

[spyderchick]

Another story linkhttp://www.amasuperbike.com/2004/Mar/040307ayt.htm

I can'y say what I think of Yates. This is a "family" forum.

[Team_nuclear123]

Jim,

It wasnt Ducati junk that caused EB to go out, it was a piece of debris from the track..

He slowed down so much and just came cruising in.. Flat front tire.... The piece he hit also punctured the oil cooler...


I TOTALLY agree that Aaron made a BAD pass, he was off line, but his closing speed was HUGE on the lapper, and he made a split second decision, and the wrong one... Mr Polen said that Aaron came up, was planning on passing out side, the lapped blew the corner, and ran straight into Aaron. Aaron had to turn in, but he had 15-20 ft on the INSIDE of the lapper to make a pass... He also said that Aaron will most likely lose his ride...

Cstem, I disagree.... TV audience will watch a five or 6 rider race, they did today.. But I belive that the KWS guys had quickchange,  and Fania was on that team...

Half of me thinks thatthis will just blow over because KWS is a Suzuki support team, and I guess that the KWS guys got thrown out of the Suzuki box at Daytona, and  lots of harsh words were exchanged... It might cost Aaron his ride, and it might alos cost KWS their support deal...

Crashign sucks, but its part of our sport...

Doug also pointed out one other lil thing that I missed today.... DiSalvo swung down on Roger Lee, "weaving: to make the others check up and or break the draft.. Rog looked like he was full on the brakes... There may/might, should be some penalty for that as well... Imagine if Rog's bike would have gone down... 6, maybe 8 bikes with it, 170mph, and prolly hit the starter too... Scary thought...

[r6_philly]

as far as eboz goes, it is not actaully just your typical duc blow I IMO. If what they say, the oil cooler sprung a leak, I can understand. racing from the 11th row last weekend saw my brand new professional paint job destoyed by thousands of little rocks hitting it at speed. I am surprised my radiator didn't sprung a leak. There are 3 cracks on my windscreen, and my tearoff had 5 holes on it, and the shield is pitted behind the tearoff. On top of that, my stainless steel mid pipe had about 20 or so pits from rocks hitting it at speed. The duc oil cooler is mounted low I think, it doesn''t suprise me if it gets hit hard enough to cause a leak. that is a shame though, I guess file that one under "we didn't know it would do that" category. You can be sure they will install something to protect the oil cooler and radiator next time out.

[OmniGLH]

Ok - if that is the case, and they sprung an oil cooler leak, then I'll give Ducati a little more credit (tho I still say they're junk!  ;) )  I definitely know there is a lot of crap on the track - lap 18 of the Team Challenge race on Thursday, we were 2nd in GTU I believe (definitely in the top-5)... Dan came in for a rider and fuel change - and we found a freakin' hole in the radiator.  That ended our day.  Very disappointing to say the least.

I would have expected the Daytona officials to SWEEP the track prior to the AMA races - but I'm guessing they probably didn't.  We're just a bunch of rowdy motorcyclists that  pick fights in the infield anyways!  ;)

[r6_philly]

I have been to daytona 3 times and this year is by far 10 times worse than anyother time I remembered. well I did run up front as a AM so not so many people throwing stuff at me (:)) but I still think this year is very bad as far as debris and rocks pebbles go. Don't know why. I was cleaning the bike today and got about 100 or more little rock pebbles out of my lowers. Like I ran through a gravel trap. Interesting, something is not right with the track this year.

[cstem]

Team Nuke- when I mean a six rider race- I mean six riders total onthe course- sorry if that wasn't totally clear.