Probably a dumb question, but...

[ClemsonsR6]

What are the requirements on safety wire? I know the oil plug, filler cap, and filter have to be safety wired.  But does everything else on the bike have to be done as well?  Axel nuts, brake bolts, radiator cap, etc. etc.  Thanks!

~ Tyler

[mw]

Last year the only items tech required me to wire were:

oil filter
drain plug
filler cap
radiator cap

[tzracer]

CCS does not require the radiator cap to be wired.

Any oil fills, oil drains, and oil filters.

[ClemsonsR6]

what about wera?

~ Tyler

[r6_philly]

almost anything is required by wera  :o

go read their rule book and start drilling!

http://www.wera.com/pages/rulebook.htm#ch8

go to 2.a

[ClemsonsR6]

Good lord!  :o  Thanks guys!

~ Tyler

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

I like the rule a little farther down....

e) Only one engine at a time may be used.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

[tigerblade]

Just remember that it's never a bad idea to wire more than is required.  You never know what pesky bolt might decide to back its way out at an inopportune time.   ;)

[Super_KC124]

WERA requires you to safetywire the rider to the seat......I think? :P

[EM JAY]

WERA requires you to safetywire the rider to the seat......I think? :P

   ;D   LOL    ;D

[tigerblade]

WERA requires you to safetywire the rider to the seat......I think? :P

No, no, no Kevin!  You're supposed to Armour All the seat!

[cornercamping]

No, no, no Kevin!  You're supposed to Armour All the seat!

I thought you were supposed to armor all the tires not the seat  ???  ;D

[tigerblade]

I thought you were supposed to armor all the tires not the seat  ???  ;D

No no no!  Chlorox on the tires!   :P ;D

[cornercamping]

No no no!  Chlorox on the tires!   :P ;D

Why would ya want to bleach your tires?  You don't like black tires?  Why would you want them white?  They'd get dirty and be black again... ???  :P

[speedster_1]

Tyler, it's Donald.  Will you be at Jennings?  Clay and I will be there.

Can anyone confirm if a belly pan is the same a a catch can?

[dwilson]

Can anyone confirm if a belly pan is the same a a catch can?

A belly pan and catch can are totally different.  
A belly pan is a pan that goes under the bike to catch all the oil if you blow your motor.  If your bike has race body work it will be built-in.  That is to say that the bottom of the fairing is closed to hold about a gallon of oil.

A catch can is a bottle that you route your crank breather or other vent lines to.  Some just route the breather to the air box, I use a small brake fluid bottle zip tied to the frame.

[speedster_1]

A belly pan and catch can are totally different.  
A belly pan is a pan that goes under the bike to catch all the oil if you blow your motor.  If your bike has race body work it will be built-in.  That is to say that the bottom of the fairing is closed to hold about a gallon of oil.

A catch can is a bottle that you route your crank breather or other vent lines to.  Some just route the breather to the air box, I use a small brake fluid bottle zip tied to the frame.

So to pass tech... I have to have a catch can with an overflow to the airbox or route to airbox (sealed as the rules state) the breather hose? ...I have to go read the rules again...  Will ALL my overflow hoses have to goto a catch can? ....can any go to the belly pan?

Got everything else ready cept this catch can crap...

[tzracer]

On 4 stroke bikes, the crankcase vents must be routed to a catch can of at least 350cc, this is not the belly pan.

The airbox can be used provided the water drain is closed, that is no oil that might collect in the airbox can drain out.

If a catch can is used, the overflow tube must be routed to the intake area of the carbs, so any overflow goes into the engine.

Battery and cooling system overflows can be routed to another catch can that does not have to be vented to the carbs.

[speedster_1]

What about the fuel over flow and the fuel air vent hose?  I don't see anything about fuel over flow in the rules.... ???

My crankcase hose is already in the airbox.  All I need is a coolant catch can.  Can anyone suggest something that will work....heat resistant and small.  I have no ideal where or how to mount the can.

Thanks for any help you guys can give.

[1fastmofo]

My catch can is a peice of 3 or 4" pvc pipe (can't remember what size) with two caps glued on each end. Then I drilled a few holes for tubing to enter. Voila. Instant catch can. I'll take some pictures for you.

[tzracer]

I have used small plastic bottles like those for brake fluid.

[Mark Bernard]

I have plastic oil bottle on mine. Harley oil bottle of course! lol  ;)

[speedster_1]

How are you securing the plastic bottles?

[RC51Racer]

Hey Mark.....

I'd heard that if you leave the oil out of the Harley it will stop leaking.

Just something I heard.

Mike

[tzracer]

I use tie wraps.

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

Hey Mark.....

I'd heard that if you leave the oil out of the Harley it will stop leaking.

Just something I heard.

Mike

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Mark Bernard]

How are you securing the plastic bottles?

2 large zip ties...

[Mark Bernard]

Hey Mark.....

I'd heard that if you leave the oil out of the Harley it will stop leaking.

Just something I heard.

Mike

My bike dont leak!!!!!! It's just marking its territory! lol  ;D

[speedster_1]

2 large zip ties...

Thanks. Thought the rules said something bout no zip ties....


So I never got a response on the fuel over flow hose...Nothing in the rule book on it......

[dwilson]

There is something in the rulebook about zip ties but I forget about what...  You'd have to try real hard to get my catch can off and it's attached with zip ties.

I'd definitely route your fuel overflows into a catch can.  It's really easy to do and when you dump your bike fuel will come out of them.  Just having them routed into the belly pan won't do much good when the bike's on it side  ::)  

[tzracer]

One hose connects to the area around the fuel filler so that when you over fill the tank, it has someplace to go (open fuel cap - look in recessed area, you should see some sort of hose). This hose is only used when the fuel cap is open.

Some bikes vent through the fuel cap, some have a vent hose. This is to allow air into the tank, it is not an overflow. I would not put a vent hose into a catch tank, especilly on fuel injected bike. In heavy rain (like Barber last year) water can get into a catch can. On a carburetted bike, the tank can create a vacuum and act as if it is out of fuel, a fuel injected bike can pull water up the vent line into the tank (don't ask). I just pulled the 2 hoses off the bottom of the tank on my RC and SV.

[1fastmofo]

Use Stainless steel clamps. Here's mine...