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So sue me....

Started by Dawn, December 16, 2003, 08:13:06 AM

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Dawn

Samuel Thompson wrote:

I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December.

I don't agree with Darwin, but I didn't go out and hire a lawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory of evolution.

Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game. So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there reading the entire book of Acts. They're just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans going home from the game. "But it's a Christian prayer," some will argue. Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country founded on Christian principles. And we are in the Bible Belt. According to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So what would you exp ect-somebody chanting Hare Krishna?

If I went to a football game in Jerusalem, I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer.

If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer.

If I went to a ping pong match in China, I woul d expect to hear someone pray to Buddha.

And I wouldn't be offended. It wouldn't bother me one bit. When in Rome...

"But what about the atheists?" is another argument. What about them? Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand. Call your lawyer. Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don't think a short prayer at a football game is going to shake the world's foundations.

Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating, to pray before we go to sleep. Our Bible tells us just to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying. God, help us. And if that last sentence offends you, well..........just sue me..

oldguy

Alright Dawn! Words of wisdom. Merry Christmas to you and yours.

lil_thorny

GOD bless us all.................
 ;D

TreyBone

Believe it or not........ I couldn't have said it better myself ;D

cuda

#4
I am an atheist and I believe that an atheist should not care about any praying that others do.  That would be pointless.  If they want to pray then let them.  How can it hurt anything?  If I were religious though, I would care more about that.  Escpecially as far as my kids go.  How would you like to go to Bagdad and have your kid in an enviroment like the ones you see on TV.  You aren't there, but they are and peer pressure is a powerful thing.  Your son comes home one day at 10 or 12 years old and tells you Jesus sucks and... you get the point.  That would be tough.  Atheists shouldn't care though, at least not from a religious point of view.  The ones that are complaining would probably complain about most anything.  They are those kinds of people.          

GSXR RACER MIKE

     Well said Dawn.

     It's sad that in this day and age that the majority is being screwed by an insignificant few that ruin it for everyone else. Prayer, the Pledge of Allegiance, kids going to their neighborhood school, I can't help but see those things as positive community/relationship builders. Yet in my town kids can't go to their neighborhood school because of a desegregation lawsuit that has raised our taxes so high that not that long ago we had the highest tax rate in the country! Now the kids are on buses for at least 2 hours a day going across town to random schools where they can't even go to school with their own neighbors. And amazingly enough nothing has changed academically due to all of this wasted time and money! While at school they can't say the Pledge of Allegiance because there are people of other nationalities there. What in the world is that about? Your either here in the USA as a visitor or as someone looking to become an American, so act like an American and say the Pledge or listen with PRIDE! (or leave the country!) And then there is prayer, which in the absolute majority of the time is being used for positive things. Yet say it in school and your bound to be suspended or disiplined in some way! Even churches are being legally forced to accept people that live lives insulting to their teachings and beliefs, or face closure.

     What a sad time in history we live in when people are muzzled as to what they can say, do, and believe in! The very things this county was founded on are all being taken away in a tragic display of a selfish few.
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TiffineyIngram

I'm not an athiest, but I wouldn't call myself a "religious" person.  I believe that there is something in control of certain things, and I call it "God", but other people may call what they believe in "God", and that's just fine.  When I was in school, each football game would have a prayer by a different denomination of worship--this past Homecoming was a Rabbi.  I think that's the most fair way to do it.  Down here in a very religious town, there's no way that they'll go without some sort of prayer.  I prefer that there is some type of prayer (whether it be religious or more like a wish for well-being) done before big events.  One person's "God" can't protect any better than anyone else's, but I'm happy that people bring their beliefs to things as simple as football games.  The only thing I remotely have a problem with is the 10 Commandments in the State buildings.  First, laws were not built on the 10 Commandments, nor should they be displayed.  I mean, why?  If we're going to do that, we should display every religion's "Commandments".

K3 Chris Onwiler

I have to believe in God.  The joke would be that I've seen him a bunch of times while racing, but the reality isn't all that far from the joke...  At any rate, I run a Racers for Christ sticker on my bike.  That's one sponsorship I'd hate to lose.
(I don't necessarily believe in the Catholic church, but that is a completely different subject.)
Here's another subject.  Am I the only one who gets misty when the National Anthem is played?
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Mark Bernard

I see God every time in T5 at R/A... I have seen him in the kink a few times too!  :o
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EM JAY

QuoteI see God every time in T5 at R/A... I have seen him in the kink a few times too!  :o

 I believe He helped me land in T5!!   ;D
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StumpysWife

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Fast4fun

Am I the only one who gets misty when the National Anthem is played?[/quote]

K3, When was the last time you've been to a pro hockey game. You deffinetely are not alone.  I love the anthem at a B-Hawks game. These days it is the only reason to attend.  
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