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Jason Disalvo pops a tire!

Started by charliev, December 09, 2003, 02:41:06 PM

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charliev

Got off work thought i'd get some lap times and wow! Rear exploded coming off nascar 4 kicked him sideways and off the front he went. he got up and walked away. word was just minor injury. hope your ok jason.

cb186

hmmm.. jason disalvo and ben spies, both have tire failures and both on dunlops! i think that i'll stick with my michelins(not that i will ever go around daytona as fast as they do anyway)
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B-MAC

Add to that, all the problems Mladin had last year on those S U C K A S S tires.

fourandsix

QuoteAdd to that, all the problems Mladin had last year on those S U C K A S S tires.
In the AMA's 600 Supersport and 750 Superstock classes, Dunlop racers have won a mind-boggling 32 out of a possible 33 championships, including both titles once again in 2003. In the ultra-competitive, high-profile AMA Superbike class, Dunlop has won 18 titles, including the last 14 in a row - an unprecedented streak.
 
 
Halverson said he believed the tire had been rubbing on the swingarm, and Miguel Duhamel reported seeing smoke coming from DiSalvo's motorcycle prior to the crash.

CCSRACER123CCS

What'sMichelin got to show in AMA. Moto gp they rock..but not here! DUUUUUUNLOOOPS!!!!

cb186

i don't put a ton of stock into the # of championships that dunlop has claimed over the years because, if i had to guess, the pro teams that run them probably get a dang nice sponsorship(read $). if maladin had to pay for his tires out of his own pocket starting today, i would bet he wouldn't be running lops any more, imho.
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Quotei don't put a ton of stock into the # of championships that dunlop has claimed over the years because, if i had to guess, the pro teams that run them probably get a dang nice sponsorship(read $). if maladin had to pay for his tires out of his own pocket starting today, i would bet he wouldn't be running lops any more, imho.

These teams and riders are in it for the championships, they are going to use what works not what they get a deal on.

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The latest report is that the tire was NOT rubbing...it was ANOTHER DUNLOP catastrophic failure!

Jeff

QuoteIn the AMA's 600 Supersport and 750 Superstock classes, Dunlop racers have won a mind-boggling 32 out of a possible 33 championships, including both titles once again in 2003. In the ultra-competitive, high-profile AMA Superbike class, Dunlop has won 18 titles, including the last 14 in a row - an unprecedented streak.
 

Amen...  Thank you.

For reference, do you see any AMA team using inferior equipment just because it's GIVEN to them?  No, you don't.  They are given the best and then choose from the best as to what suits their taste...
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scottg22

Also a thing couple things to consider....   First Disalvo is running a Superstock bike with 17" slicks.  Tire Manufacturers have been focusing on 16.5" slicks not for awhile.....  and now are working again with the 17's.  I am sure they know what they need/want in the tires from some the 16.5 data, but again its testing and its new again (tire sizes, sidewalls contruction etc...)

Add in the fact that these Superstock bikes are almost as fast as full on Superbikes (and just as fast as some superbikes...) at DIS.  (49's are smoking fast!!).

Lastly... everyone is quick to jump on the "Brand X sucks because of this or that"  band wagon with out full details.  Ever stop and think Disalvo was testing ?  In order to find out what works best you need to try different things.  Some things work some things dont.  That is why its called testing.  Its a dangerous fact that these guys have to test to find out what works but its their job to do so and that is why they are riding motorcycles in Florida right now and getting paid to do so and we are sitting behind our keyboards !  

r6_philly

how many time have each of you seem across the tread cuts develop on Dunlop DOT's? It doesn't matter whether it is safe or not. But when a "issue of concern" such as tread seperation is pointed out, they have not made ANY effort toward fixing it.


So their product may be good, or worthy to win championships, but I do not have any confidence in the corporate philosophy.

I can see my thread spliting, on different dunlops I have used, and nothing is being done about it. They call it "Normal" I call it "inferior prodcut that I don't trust"

1fastmofo

I agree...

Dunlop really needs to take a look at what they're doing. Speaking from a purely engineering standpoint, catastrophic failures should be unacceptable. What good is a special race tire that doesn't stay together? I understand that this is testing, and that's what it's for. But, rider safety should be put first, otherwise you might not have anyone left to test your tires.

Make all the excuses you want, like the tire rubbed. What a crock of sh!t. That's just a manufacturer trying to dodge a bullet. Point being, Dunlop tires have been failing on different bikes, with different riders, at different tracks. You can even add in for different reasons if you beleive what you hear. When all the B.S. stops and the smoke clears you have a product that is failing, end of story.

Something needs to change. All the product loyalty and trust in philosophy, and past championships don't mean crap to a rider who's trying to minimize damage to his body while sliding down the track at 180+ mph. Good for Matt for speaking his mind. I personally don't like him, but it's about time someone took a stand.

Anyone ever see Michelin or Perelli tires separate at the seams or explode? Nope. Dunlop needs to worry about their product failing first. Then work on performance. What would everyone think if these riders all died from their tires failing? I bet it'd be a whole different story. It's too bad to that in this sport someone needs to die before change is made. I'll stop my rant now.