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fork tubes/wheels.. as long as stock ok???

Started by MELK-MAN, November 12, 2003, 02:56:24 PM

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MELK-MAN

wheels on an f4, the 1999-2000 are the same bike, so the 99 wheels could be used on my 2000 right? provided everything is stock, no weight taken off, stock or equiv. rotors, etc. How about fork tubes, take an 02 r6 vs 03r6. What if i bend 03 tubes but can only find 02 tubes on Ebay...do i violate superstock rules?????
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Woofentino Pugrossi

Dont see why not as long as they are the same. I dont know if the 02 R6 tubes are the same as teh 03's.

I've seen people using GSXR rims on TLRs in SS classes. Same parts, just from another model. F2's using F3 rims.
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MELK-MAN

QuoteDont see why not as long as they are the same. I dont know if the 02 R6 tubes are the same as teh 03's.

I've seen people using GSXR rims on TLRs in SS classes. Same parts, just from another model. F2's using F3 rims.

I see gsxr stuff on sv's, so thats what id think, who knows. The 03r6 tubes are a little thinner than the tubes on the 02 r6.
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ReneGSXR

where it wont be legal is if you use R1 forks on your R6, but as long as you have OEM R6 Forks on an R6 there shouldnt be a problem. as for the wheels i didnt think there was a diffrence from 99 to 2000, it's not like they are marchesini wheels or anything like that. I think and im pretty sure that as long as its oem stuff and its from the same class bike its legal. atleast thats how ive read it and have been told by the experts riders.

r6_philly

its all up to who inteprete the rules, it seems. The language is kind of vague. "All orginal equipment wheels, forks, calipers, ... must be used"

1. Orginal equipment from different model year may be different. If the parts have the same part number, then I presume (presume) that it will be legal. If they have different part numbers, it seem to read tha tit is not legal.

2. Original forks include fork internals. So based on the rules, using aftermarket valving is NOT legal. Unless the rules states "Original forks must be used, except fork internals can be changed to after market units".

But I never seen them being enforced that way, so it is up to the race director or tech director to decide how he/she reads the rules. Maybe CCS can clarify this rule for supersport, and maybe add the appropriate language for 2004.

Time to email the rule committee again...

Nate R

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Original equipment does NOT mean remain as produced. BIG difference. You can cut off tabs, etc form forks. Also, as long as teh upper and lowers of the forks are from the bike they're on, I believe you have free reign on internals. In fact, I KNOW you do. Ed key built his SS SV within the rules, and double checked with Kevin about several things, and I KNOW his internals have some very NOT stock stuff.

But, original equipment does not mean you can't modify it. Remain as produced is what can't be touched. You want to drill your rear rotor, or take off those chain guard tabs? Legal. Want to go fenderless and chop the fender mounts from the forks? Legal.

Cutting the sidestand mount tab off of your frame is legal.

I have some plans for my next SV. Once I found this out, I got all excited about mroe stuff I can chop off of the bike.
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r6_philly

yes it seem like you can modify orginal equipment, but the orginal equipment I think, must come from the same model, same model year.

As for the fork internals, I already heard back from Kevin. It turns out that it is legal to change the internals, but he is going to pass on my suggestion of additional wording to clarify to the rules committee.

Nate R

Yes, unless of course the model was unchanged for another year. (IE: you can use a 99 SV fork on an 01.)
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fzr400tony

it's all legal until you're protested. :)  

since i race old crap, we need verification on age rules all the time.  basically you can use one part from a different year bike, so long as you bring a spec sheet or part # listing for both years to verify that the parts are the same across the years.

if someone says, "greg beat me and i know i lost because he's using '99 forks," they can protest and if the tech guy says, yeah, you're using 99 forks, greg would need to show like part #'s are the same or something like that.

at least that seems to be my understanding of what kevin is saying.