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Started by riopko, November 02, 2003, 06:03:59 PM

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Gumby647

I'll be really pissed if this is the case. >:(

I've sent a letter to Kevin Elliot in hopes of stopping the madness. I just got into racing a single last year and have been having a lot of fun.  I really don't like the idea of having to race against the SVs, there's just no point. I might as well enter my MuZ in GTO.

I don't see why there is a problem with keeping the class structure the way it is. They seem to run a lot of these smaller classes at the same time anyway. With the new scoring system you would think it would be easier to keep track of these smaller classes.

Is it really such a burden on CCS to have these classes?
  

riopko

As it is we run ltwt with thunderbike so that eats no additional tracktime. Middleweight sportsman usually has all of the lightwieght bikes racing up a class and a half decent field. Maybe let the other classes mentioned run with one of these classes to tighten up the daily schedule, and still have two decent races to run. I'm just a newbie but I learned quite a bit this year. I have no desire to mix it up in the 600 class. Another year or two in the lower classes to learn and I may move to an SV or whatever is the full class at that time.

 I am looking to see what happens in the WERA classes to see if they have a better option. They may make a vintage class for the FZRs and then race up in something like lt wt solo so still get some track time and be done on Saturday.

A light wieght F40 would help old guys like me but still have the SV's so really just running for track time. Maybe a three way F40 all run at the same time with HW MW LT Wt.

Un-retired_racer

Paul-

The displacement limit in MWSM is 500cc so FZR560 superbikes aren't legal in the class.  What configuration does Jason have?

Express_Racing_#2

At VIR Kevin indicated that the max displacement on the 400 would go to 560 or 460. The 400 is very competitive (at least in SE and MA) in MWSM. The MuZ are'nt slow by any means and beat the faster 400's on a regular basis. I think the racing will be very interesting, there's just not going to be much of it.
The downside of it means that everyone will be running in GP or SB trim and that means $$$ for motors. You can buy an SV for what it costs to have someone build a 560 motor for you. That's a lot of money for one or two races a weekend.

A ltwt break in F40 might be an idea. I know at least 3 or 4 riders that would be interested in that.

PJ

QuoteThe displacement limit in MWSM is 500cc so FZR560 superbikes aren't legal in the class.  What configuration does Jason have?

Hmmm. I don't know. I assumed it was a 560 only because he was so fast at RA. I didn't know that a 560 displacement isn't legal.

Jason's a very talented rider. It's probably just a 500 or maybe 400. Anyway, he spanked us all.
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K3 Chris Onwiler

A 560 is crazy easy to build if CCS would just let you use the cases from the YZF 600 like WERA does.
Here is the recipe...
YZF600 rods, crank and cases.
FZR600 pistons, barrels and head.  (YZF head will also work)
Have Falicon bush the YZF rods to fit the FZR6 piston pin.
Assemble, add flatslides and kick butt!

The problem is that CCS makes you build this combo on FZR400 cases, which runs into a bunch of machining to get the crank to fit.  Since WERA already allows the YZF cases, it shouldn't be too hard to convince Kevin to change this rule.  However, the rule will not change unless FZR owners unite and petition for it.  Since it seems that you're running out of classes to race the little Fizzer in, you probably have some decent leverage.  It's up to you guys...
The frame was snapped, the #3 rod was dangling from a hole in the cases, and what was left had been consumed by fire.  I said, "Hey, we've got all night!"
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Arnziffel



This is the F40 Lightweight breakdown that I received from Kevin Elliot

 F40 LW Am and Ex

Single cylinder, unlimited displacement
2 stoke,liguid cooled, up to 450cc
2 stroke, air cooled, unlimited
twin,air cooled, up to 1000cc
twin, aircooled push rod, up to 1210cc
twin, liguid,up to 700cc
4 cyl,liguid,up to 565cc
4cyl,air,2 valve, up to 750cc

hope this helps you out




MZGirl

 >:(

I'm drafting my letter to Kevin right now.  

SAVE THE SUPERSINGLE!!!

EM JAY

  Hopefully the powers that be will not go thru with it.  Whatever happened to the Skorpion Cup?  Wasn't with CCS right?   Maybe bring that back or even create an SV cup?  SOMETHING!!??? ???
Michael Jordan
           CCS EX #??   ASRA #??
   01 SV Midwest
  Thanks to Expert Racing Ltd. in Chicago and Madness Custom Choppers of Fox Lake

dwtennis

#21
"A 560 is crazy easy to build if CCS would just let you use the cases from the YZF 600 like WERA does"

That sounds like the ticket to me.  Paging all FZR owners, let's talk with Kevin about this!!!

Litespeed

Once again, CCS is trying to drive off there customer base and doing a mighty fine job of it as always.   ::)

Nate R

You think so? I think this may open up a bit more time on track, which may make it easier for the majority of racers. Not saying I like the idea, but the day is limited.
Nate Reik
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Missing my SV :-(