Points question

[lil_thorny]

i think that my confidence is a little low, so I will
petition to stay AM... for next year. Then the year after that, and the year after that...then I'll go expert
sandbagg and do horrible then petition again to be
Amateur for my 6th year.... then if i'm lucky I will
be able to buy a championship....and still get in the way of others.  Dejavu eh Simon?

 :o

[GregR6]

Arnie,
Had I not crashed last event (twice), I'd probably have around 1800 pts and about the same PE as you... I DNF 2 races (running 2nd in both) and DNS 4 races, and placed a 2nd and 4th.  I would still be petitioning. (All 3 events were double points, by the way: FUSA VIR/SUMMIT and VIR SEPT)
My thing isn't finishes, so much as experience. I've been on the track 11 times now...total...inconsistently over the last 2 years. 3 races, 1 school, and 6 (and 1/2) track days.
3 on VIR S which ain't worth a @#$% anyway

I haven't raced Roebling, Daytona or Barber yet. I've seen Summit once.
I came out pretty good early, but I have a LOT to learn, and I can learn it by racing @ 100% in Amateur next year, vs "trying" to learn riding at 110% with you guys. (And probably crashing out 1/2 the time...)
another example?
D Kelly had MANY more races last yr than I did this year, more points as well, and he raced all this year in Am.

[r6_philly]

i think that my confidence is a little low, so I will
petition to stay AM... for next year. Then the year after that, and the year after that...then I'll go expert
sandbagg and do horrible then petition again to be
Amateur for my 6th year.... then if i'm lucky I will
be able to buy a championship....and still get in the way of others.  Dejavu eh Simon?

 :o

if you try to sandbag they will MAKE you move up  :P Besides, they are more money to be had as EX anyway  ;)

[ahastings]

Greg,
  I am not knocking your decision as I will prob. do the same since I only raced at Summit this year. Although I believe both you and I would be fine in expert battling out back in mid pack while slower Ams. are collecting that valuable tire contingency. It is CCS system that I have issue with. They need a good solid advancement rule and stick with it, then there will be no complaining of sandbagging. It is their system that allows it. 500 points is a joke since they don't enforce it and it is too little under their current system. They could use the 500 cutoff if they kept it separate from regional points and didn't count double points for advancement and say only gave advancement points if you finished in the top 25% of your class. It is obvius that they aren't advancing many people when you look at the difference in the grid sizes between am. and expert.

[GregR6]

I can't disagree. I think 1000pts is a better cutoff, which would highlight the more consistent racers, but that's still open to consideration of all other aspects that are looked at in the decision making process.
I mean if I entered all 11 races I could in MW, at a double points weekend, and finish top 10 every race....I'm Expert material???? uh... no.

Problem is, there are way too many different circumstances/scenarios to have set-in-stone rule(s) for bumping, so I think we can trust in Tiff's judgement at the end of the year, as she will look at the rider's overall performance, experience, consistency, etc... at an individual level, and make the right choice.

PS. I'm still an amateur. ;)