CCS Homestead Concerns

[actiontek]

Well, Henry it is good to see you respond to this post.

[EX#996]

Just a follow up note....

I am glad Henry did respond, and address the concern.  If only he would have gone to people who have the authority to address his concerns, and make any changes necessary, first - before a forum like this -  the world would be a lot better, and perhaps, a less stressfull place.  (This is not only for racing, but in business and your personal life as well).

O.K.  I'll get off my soap box now....

Sorry,

Dawn  

[MightyDuc Racing]

This is probably the last you will here from me on this issue (Hooray!!!), but I just wanted to respond to Dawn.  The people that were responsible for letting a race continue 3 full laps with a bike and parts leaking fuel directly on the race surface and, by the way, at the entrance to a VERY fast corner, performed like idiots.  Maybe they aren't idiots, but their reactions were out and out poor.  My family has also been racing for a long time (try since 1932!), and I started at the age of 4 in 1979 myself, so that has nothing to do with my feelings on this particular incident.  It's simple...in ANY road race, on ANY track, at ANY time, you don't let a race go that long with a bike on the race surface!  Enough.

[EX#996]

Bryan:

Your post has created a lot of responses both on the WERA board and the CCS board.  However, I feel your post here was premature.  

This is the way I wish the situation would have been handled.  If you see a problem in a race....  Take your concerns to the race director first.  If you don't get satisfaction there, take it to the club.  A post like this should be as a last result only.

Dawn

By the way.... In my family we have three generations of racing.  If our daughter has her way, it will be four.   :-/

[MightyDuc Racing]

I apologize for that, but I am completely new to the racing scene here in Florida, and had no idea how to respond.  There were about 10 other fans there near me that all said they were gonna write emails and letters to the CCS regarding this incident, so I guess I didn't know any better.

[StuartV666]

SS900FE,

No need for apologies, dude. You have just gotten your first lesson in "Never say anything negative about the Establishment in Public". Fortunately, the bad consequences are mostly confined to name-calling and abuse from the WERA cliques on the WERA BBS. It sounds like you've already gotten some of that.

Personally, I am a strong believer in public scrutiny and public discourse. I don't like back door deals and "private" conversations.

Raising this issue in this forun has given everybody else an opportunity to know about it and see CCS' response. Personally, I am very impressed with Henry DeGouw's response and pleased that I was able to witness it. Before, he was just a name on those flyers I get in the mail. Now, in my mind, he's a good guy that I am more inclined to go racing under.

Also, as you have already pointed out, you were not the only person to witness that incident. By raising the issue here, it gives all those other people who saw it an opportunity to see Henry's response, too. If you had called and had a private chat, some of those people would surely have just gone away with a bad feeling about CCS and never had anything happen to help them dispel it. Now, maybe some of them will find their way here and read Henry's response and end up with a positive feeling about CCS instead of a negative one.

Don't let a little name-calling and eye-rolling get you down!

- Stu

ps. In MY family, we have NO generations of racing before me. I feel SO inferior! ;-)

[THE_D.O.C.]

Well, THE_D.O.C. and Dawn, it seems to me like y'all owe SS900FE an apology.

You called his post spew and whining. Yet, Henry DeGouw's post seems to make it pretty clear that SS900FE made some legitimate observations and had some legitimate concerms.

In fact, if you ever race at Homestead, maybe you ought to even consider THANKING SS900FE, since it seems that his post may have contributed, at least in some small way, to ensuring that in the future Turn 11 always has its own cornerworker.

Your negative and not-in-any-way constructive responses to SS900FE are the kind of thing the WERA BBS is well-known for. I hope you will not make a habit of that kind of kindergarten sandbox posting on this BBS also.

SS900FE, I salute you for bringing the issue to light. Thanks for helping to make racing safer for all of us.

- Stu

stu, "AKA idiot" my jab at this clown is that he was whining and cusing a scene on the WERA BBS instead of talking to the correct officials here. not for having concerns. weren't you the clown whining about tom fetsko there? if so you know where to look. go see his post there. by the way the folks at wera defended ccs and told himthat this can happen sometimes.

[MightyDuc Racing]

I appreciate the clown remark by the way.  One thing I have not done is be rude or call anybody names or act like an a$$hole.  I admitted that I didn't know where to post about this incident, made it right when I found out, and got the answer I was looking for.  By the way...in my very 1st post way back, all I was looking for was feedback on how things run elsewhere (aka..WERA), so get off your high horse, don't call people you don't know names, etc, and try not to live the rest of your life like the a$$hole you appear to be.  Sorry if I offended anybody else, but I hope this is not how this person treats everybody.  By the way, without new fans and racers, there is no more racing.  Get a clue!

[EX#996]

Alright....

This is getting just as bad as the 4 & 6 thread.   ::)

Time to put this one to bed.

Dawn

[THE_D.O.C.]

I appreciate the clown remark by the way.  One thing I have not done is be rude or call anybody names or act like an a$$hole.  I admitted that I didn't know where to post about this incident, made it right when I found out, and got the answer I was looking for.  By the way...in my very 1st post way back, all I was looking for was feedback on how things run elsewhere (aka..WERA), so get off your high horse, don't call people you don't know names, etc, and try not to live the rest of your life like the a$$hole you appear to be.  Sorry if I offended anybody else, but I hope this is not how this person treats everybody.  By the way, without new fans and racers, there is no more racing.  Get a clue!

face it, you got caught trying to stir up something. you went to wera talking smack about ccs, when you know damn well you should have spoken to ccs officials first. you wanted attenion and now you have it. don't be pissed at me because it's not the kind you wanted.  ;)

[MightyDuc Racing]

OK...for the final time...I did NOT know who to talk to.  I just lucked into finding the WERA BBS page while searching for race bike classifieds.  I didn't even know there WAS a difference between WERA and CCS...I thought they were all a part of Formula USA.  I am NEW...hello???!!!???  As soon as somebody told me this site existed, I switched over to here.  Again, I am sorry for not knowing any better, but I DID wind up with an excellent response from the powers that be.  Think what you want, dude.  Peace!

[THE_D.O.C.]

SOOOOOOOO. you don't even know that CCS and WERA are different, yet you know EVERYTHING about corner working?!?  ::)