Who has the right to the corner?

[Team_nuclear123]

A couple of things....

One, you never own the line. I ride a LOT with Doug Polen, and if I leave 6 inches of pavement between my knee and the curb, I can bet there is a tire there in a heart beat. If  you want to progress in your racing, you need to be aggressive, and defensive.

If you run the tightest line that your speed will allow, you not only run a shorter track than running it to the paint, you prevent people from sticking it up the inside.

Sometimes its a fight, and sometimes its a fast guy that is running up from the back of the grid or a bad start, you never know who is going to be passing you, but the faster, harder, and more aggressive you pass, the safer it is.

A slow, unsure, uncommited pass is the second scariest thing in racing today, ever see a slow uncommited pass in MotoGP or WSB? Didnt think so.

Hitting the guy ahead of you trying to stuff past is TOTAL BS, and is never acceptable, but being aggresive is fine. This isnt a public street, you dont have the right away, its a race remember??

[davegsxrold929r]

yes dawn ,. but there is no point where showing a wheel says they have the line., it just says they are agressive enough to let you know they are there.,..at no point to i give up my line to anyone faster or slower,. it is there job to get around as it is my job to pass someone.... this is club racing i understand., but i have fun passing and pushing people., and/or being passed which makes me faster....once you are running top 10 exp/amature  showing a wheel does not dues much ., i show a lapper a wheel and it does somethuing., i hate passing on the inside because i feel if i crash i take the other guy with me., which i would hate to do., but i have to learn to start passing on the inside more., because that really is the beter way to make a pass in my opinion !!

[Dawn]

Sometimes I wonder where the line is between aggressive and careless.

Paul cares enough for Renee and myself that he will not put himself in any additional danger on the track.  I respect him for that.

Thanks for your opinions.

Dawn   :)

[lil_thorny]

Steve,
thanks again for the sprocket. And yes it was a shame you and lonny had to tangle. Next time wait
till the carousel...and pass him on the outside, he's
kinda slow in there :D Steve, 1:14.5 baby...awesome
run this weekend....yer steppen it up brotha...next
you'll be passing Roeser and Hall!!!!!!!!

Back to the question. Kevin Gordon scared the
S H I T out of me into 15 at MAM no worning no wheel....just pure out-handling through the corner.
I saw him but didn't move a muscle. knowing, not hoping, that he would clear me. So, passing gets scary the faster you approach a corner. I was not prepared for KG to pass me as close as he did, but
I learned a new lesson that weekend, that that sort
of thing is possible. I was told that I made a "sketchy" pass on #75 that put him in the grass.
I like Brian and would never intentionaly ruin his weekend with poor judgement. I think that maybe he
wasn't expecting me there when I came, and I probably didn't make the pass as cleanly as say a
Kevin Gordon would have. Lessons to learn I guess.
On the other hand, I'm not gonna sit back and wait while the guy behind me ponders where he will pass me.
Benj.

[MELK-MAN]

im still learning road racing as an AM this year but raced motox a few years. Hurts alot more roadracing and WAY more expensive to make bone head passes. I try to get a wheel in front at least by the time we are at turn in of a corner. If im passing outside, i try to show as soon after apex as possible so i dont get run off the track. Some Am guys back off if you out brake them but im seeing that is not the case in Exp.
I simply try to make the fastest pass possible and just am always hoping someone getting around me is doin the same and realizes we gotta go to work the next day....

[MightyDuc Racing]

Ditto on the experts being tougher to pass than the amateurs.  This was the first time I got that far forward into them, and it got really tough to get by some of them...lol.

[GAMEDIC]

He who is faster...someway will get by ;D

[Jkf95]

Ok, this is a pretty open ended question...

It is customary to say that the guy in front has the "right of way".  So, if your wheel is in front it's yours....

It's that simple... it is the responsibility of the the one attempting to pass to do it clean and safely...It doesn't matter that there is 18" of room on the inside of the track...

yes you might show a wheel to a slower rider before the apex to see if the rider makes a mistake or backs off... but if he tightens up to the corner the other should be ready to back off and pass when he can do so clean and safely...

[Dawn]

It is customary to say that the guy in front has the "right of way".  So, if your wheel is in front it's yours....

It's that simple... it is the responsibility of the the one attempting to pass to do it clean and safely...It doesn't matter that there is 18" of room on the inside of the track...

yes you might show a wheel to a slower rider before the apex to see if the rider makes a mistake or backs off... but if he tightens up to the corner the other should be ready to back off and pass when he can do so clean and safely...

Thank you...

Dawn   ;)