What is up with these poor updates?

[RRRAmateur]

Yet another week has gone by and there are still no updates on the "Results" section or the "Points" section either. As far as I can tell the points were last updated on May 15th, 2003 but N. Florida was not even included on the entries. The only points that I have listed are from Febuary in Daytona. ;D  Now it has been another week gone by and no updates from Roebling either. I am just posting this with the hopes that some one in the CCS offices will maybe read this and realize how many people rely on this information and want it kept more up to date. Is the problem the web designer? I mean man, give me an SSH connection and I will update it my self for crying out loud. Well either way ... Im not one to whine but come on guys .. It should not take a week to update some simple code.  

[GAMEDIC]

They are well aware of it and they do look here but it has not helped no matter how many times we fuss...i even compared it to WERA and the reason CCS gave me for WERA being faster was that CCS had more to do....well i sat and counted it all up in another thread i posted and guess what...they are almost exactly the same as far as total races and total race weekends...but of core i didn't get any responce to that...

[Eric Kelcher]

exactly the same or exactly double  ??? CCS 70 WERA 35  ::)

[GAMEDIC]

i'm afraid not...i added up every region...weekend by weekend and posted it in this thread:
http://www.racemotorcycles.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?board=ccs1;action=display;num=1055275053;start=9


Southeast class points have still not been updated yet either says 5/15/03 .... a month?...maybe CCS needs to see if one person from each region wants to take it over and fore the time spent give them one free enrty per race day and let them keep up with the class points for that region... i mean a few days is one thing but a month is another... othe org's have points posted by monday or tuesday after the weekend...and i have heard it is because CCS has more regions...well unless i can't count...and i'm not ruling that out  there are 11 regions in CCS...and that is including all events even CRMA and F-USA well WERA also has 11 regions...including the endurance....CCS has a total of 113 race weekends for all regions..WERA has total 115 race weekends sooo....i ask...why is it that WERA can get the points and results up in a few days when it takes CCS weeks up to months?.. and i never thought about it like this till now so this is a serious question...


tell me if that is wrong...i don't believe it is...if i can't count ..i know i'm not off by ore than a couple ...which should not make that much difference...i mean they have results AND points posted no later than a week after..most of the time alot faster...and it is only ONE person doing it ...

[GAMEDIC]

i mean here count for yourself????
this is WERA:

2003 WERA National Endurance Series

3/29 North Florida Motorsports Park - 6 Hour
4/12 Carolina Motorsports Park - 4 Hour
5/9 Nashville Superspeedway - 4 Hour
5/23 2003 Cycle Jam, Virginia International - 4 Hour
6/21 Talladega Gran Prix Raceway - 4 Hour
7/19 Grattan Raceway - 8 Hour
8/2 Summit Point Raceway - 6 Hour
8/30 Hallett Motor Racing Circuit - 6 Hour
9/13 Barber Motorsports Park - 6 Hour
10/31 Grand National Finals - 4 Hour
 
2003 WERA National Challenge Series

3/28-30 North Florida Motorsports Park, Jennings, FL
4/11-13 Carolina Motorsports Park, Kershaw, SC
5/9-11 Nashville Superspeedway, Nashville, TN
5/22-25 2002 Cycle Jam, Virginia International, Alton, VA
6/20-22 Talladega Gran Prix Raceway, Talladega, AL
7/18-20 Grattan Raceway, Grattan, MI
8/1-3 Summit Point Raceway, Summit Point, WV
8/29-31 Hallett Motor Racing Circuit, Hallett, OK
9/12-14 Barber Motorsports Park, Leeds, AL
10/29-11/2 Grand National Finals & Suzuki Cup Finals
Road Atlanta, Braselton, GA

2003 National Vintage Series

2/15-16 No Problem Raceway, Belle Rose, LA
2/27-28 North Florida Motorsports Park, Jennings, FL-Vintage Only
In conjunction with AHRMA-D
3/22-23 Roebling Road Raceway, Faulkville, GA
4/5-6 Hallett Motor Racing Circuit, Hallett, OK
4/19-20 Summit Point Raceway, Summit Point, WV
4/19-20 Texas World Speedway, College Station, TX
4/26-27 Talladega Gran Prix Raceway, Talladega, AL
5/17-18 Grattan Raceway, Grattan, MI
5/31-6/1 N. Florida Motorsports Park, Jennings, FL
5/31-6/1 Putnam Park, Mt. Meridian, IN
6/7-8 Summit Point Raceway, Summit Point, WV-D
6/14 FIM Vintage Championships (USCRA), NHIS, Loudon, NH
WERA Vintage Points Awarded
6/28-29 Barber Motorsports Park, Leeds, AL
7/5-6 Road Atlanta, Braselton, GA-D
7/26-27 Carolina Motorsports Park, Kershaw, SC
8/2-3 Roebling Road Raceway, Faulkville, GA
8/9-10 Putnam Park Road Course, Mt. Meridian, IN-D
8/23-24 Talladega Gran Prix Raceway, Talladega, AL-cc, D,
8/23-24 Virginia Int'l Raceway, Alton, VA
8/23-24 Grattan Raceway, Grattan, MI
9/6-7 Carolina Motorsports Park, Kershaw, SC-D
9/20-21 Summit Point (Shenandoah Circuit), Summit Point, WV
9/27-28 Nelson Ledges Road Course, Garrettsville, OH
10/11-12 Nashville Superspeedway, Nashville, TN-D
10/29-11/2 Road Atlanta, Braselton, GA -D

2003 Grand National Finals & Suzuki Cup Finals
10/29-11/2 Road Atlanta, Braselton, GA - A,K,S,

North Central

5/3-4 Putnam Park Road Course, Mt. Meridian, IN-rs,Y,
5/17-18 Grattan Raceway, Grattan, MI-D,P,rs,Y,
5/22-25 WERA Cycle Jam, VIR, Alton, VA -A,D,K,P,S,
5/31-6/1 Putnam Park, Mt. Meridian, IN-P,rs,
6/21-22 Nelson Ledges Road Course, Garrettsville, OH-A,K,rs,S,Y,
6/28-29 Barber Motorsports Park, Leeds, AL-A,K,P,rs,
7/23-24 Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course/AMA Grand Championships
8/9-10 Putnam Park Road Course, Mt. Meridian, IN-A,K,S,
8/23-24 Grattan Raceway, Grattan, MI-A,rs,Y,
9/27-28 Nelson Ledges Road Course, Garrettsville, OH-D,P,

[GAMEDIC]

Northeast

3/15-16 Virginia Int'l Raceway, Alton, VA-A,rs,
4/19-20 Summit Point Raceway, Summit Point, WV-rs,
5/22-25 WERA Cycle Jam, VIR, Alton, VA -A,D,K,P,S,
6/7-8 Summit Point Raceway, Summit Point, WV-A,D,K,P,rs,S,
6/21-22 Nelson Ledges Road Course, Garrettsville, OH-A,K,rs,S,Y,
7/23-24 Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course/AMA Grand Championships
8/23-24 Virginia Int'l Raceway, Alton, VA-D,rs,S,Y,
9/20-21 Summit Point (Shenandoah Circuit), Summit Point, WV-A,K,
9/27-28 Nelson Ledges Road Course, Garrettsville, OH-P,

North Florida

3/22-23 Roebling Road Raceway, Faulkville, GA -rs,S,
5/22-25 WERA Cycle Jam, VIR, Alton, VA -A,D,K,P,S,
5/31-6/1 N. Florida Motorsports Park, Jennings, FL-A,D,K,rs,
6/7-8 Roebling Road Raceway, Faulkville, GA -P,
7/5-6 Road Atlanta, Braselton, GA-A,K,P,rs,S,
7/12-13 N. Florida Motorsports Park, Jennings, FL-A,D,Y,
8/2-3 Roebling Road Raceway, Faulkville, GA-A,K,rs,
10/4-5 N. Florida Motorsports Park, Jennings, FL-P,rs,S,
 
Mid-Atlantic

3/15-16 Virginia Int'l Raceway, Alton, VA-A,rs,
4/19-20 Summit Point Raceway, Summit Point, WV-rs,
5/22-25 WERA Cycle Jam, VIR, Alton, VA -A,D,K,P,S,
6/7-8 Summit Point Raceway, Summit Point, WV-A,D,K,P,rs,S,
7/5-6 Road Atlanta, Braselton, GA-A,K,P,rs,S,
7/26-27 Carolina Motorsports Park, Kershaw, SC-D,K,rs,S,Y,
8/23-24 Virginia Int'l Raceway, Alton, VA-rs,S,Y,
9/20-21 Summit Point (Shenandoah Circuit), Summit Point, WV-A,K,

Mid-Central

2/8-9 Talladega Gran Prix Raceway - Talladega, AL-cc,rs,
4/26-27 Talladega Gran Prix Raceway - Talladega, AL-c,D,K,S,Y,
5/9-11 Nashville Superspeedway, Nashville, TN-N,K,P,S,
5/22-25 WERA Cycle Jam, VIR, Alton, VA -A,D,K,P,S,
5/31-6/1 Putnam Park, Mt. Meridian, IN-P,rs,
6/28-29 Barber Motorsports Park, Leeds, AL-A,K,P,rs,
7/5-6 Road Atlanta, Braselton, GA-A,K,P,rs,S,
8/9-10 Putnam Park Road Course, Mt. Meridian, IN-A,K,S,
8/23-24 Talladega Gran Prix Raceway - Talladega, AL-A,cc,P,rs,
8/29-31 Hallett Motor Racing Circuit, Hallett, OK-N,
10/11-12 Nashville Superspeedway, Nashville, TN-D,K,Y,

Southeast

2/8-9 Talladega Gran Prix Raceway - Talladega, AL-cc,rs,
3/22-23 Roebling Road Raceway, Faulkville, GA -rs,S,
4/26-27 Talladega Gran Prix Raceway - Talladega, AL-c,D,K,S,Y,
5/9-11 Nashville Superspeedway, Nashville, TN-N,K,P,S,
5/22-25 WERA Cycle Jam, VIR, Alton, VA -A,D,K,P,S,
6/7-8 Roebling Road Raceway, Faulkville, GA -P,
6/28-29 Barber Motorsports Park, Leeds, AL-A,K,P,rs,
7/5-6 Road Atlanta, Braselton, GA-A,K,P,rs,S,
7/26-27 Carolina Motorsports Park, Kershaw, SC-D,K,rs,S,Y,
8/2-3 Roebling Road Raceway, Faulkville, GA-A,K,rs,
8/23-24 Talladega Gran Prix Raceway - Talladega, AL-A,cc,P,rs,
9/6-7 Carolina Motorsports Park, Kershaw, SC-rs,
10/4-5 N. Florida Motorsports Park, Jennings, FL-P,rs,S,
10/11-12 Nashville Superspeedway, Nashville, TN-K,Y,

South Central -

2/15-16 No Problem Raceway, Belle Rose, LA-rs,
4/5-6 Hallett Motor Racing Circuit, Hallett, OK-rs,
4/19-20 Texas World Speedway, College Station, TX-A,D,rs,S,
5/22-25 WERA Cycle Jam, VIR, Alton, VA -A,D,K,S,
6/28-29 Barber Motorsports Park, Leeds, AL-A,K,P,rs,
8/29-31 Hallett Motor Racing Circuit, Hallett, OK-A,K,

[GAMEDIC]

This is CCS...you count and tell me??

Central
February 22-23 Oak Hill Raceway
March 15-16 Texas World Speedway
May 3-4 Motorsports Ranch
May 24-25 Hallett Racing Circuit
June 14-15 Texas World Speedway
July 19-20 Hallet Racing Circuit
September 6-7 Texas World Speedway
September 27-28 Oak Hill Raceway
October 11-12 Motorsports Ranch

Florida Roadracing
Championship Sanctioned by CCS
February 8-9 Homestead *
Feb 27-March 2 Daytona Intl Speedway
March 15-16 Moroso Motorsports Park
April 5-6 N. FL Motorsports Park
May 3-4 N. FL Motorsports Park
May 25-26 Moroso Motorsports Park
July 19-20 Moroso Motorsports Park
August 23-24 Moroso Motorsports Park
September 6-7 N. FL Motorsports Park
September 20-21 Moroso Motorsports Park
December 6-7 Homestead *

Loudon Road Race Series
Championship Sanctioned by CCS
April 26-27 New Hampshire Intl.
May 17-18 New Hampshire Intl.
June 7-8 New Hampshire Intl.
July 5-6 New Hampshire Intl.
July 26-27 New Hampshire Intl.
August 16-17 New Hampshire Intl.
August 30-31 New Hampshire Intl.
September 27-28 New Hampshire Intl.

Great Lakes Roadracing Championship
April 5-6 Blackhawk Farms *
April 25-27 Road America**@
May 17-18 Gingerman Raceway
May 31-June 1 Blackhawk Farms
June 14-15 Gateway Intl Raceway
July 4-6 Mid-America Motorplex**@
August 8-10 Heartland Park*
August 23-24 Blackhawk Farms
September 13-14 Gateway Intl Raceway**
September 27-28 Gingerman Raceway*

Great Plains Roadracing Championship
April 5-6 Blackhawk Farms *
April 25-27 Road America**@
May 17-18 Gingerman Raceway
May 24-26 Mid-America Motorplex*
June 14-15 Gateway Intl Raceway
July 4-6 Mid-America Motorplex**@
August 8-10 Heartland Park
August 16-17 Barber Motorsports**
September 13-14 Gateway Intl Raceway**
October 4-5 Gateway Intl Raceway *

Mid-Atlantic Roadracing Championship
Feb 27-March 2 Daytona Intl Speedway
March 29-30 Roebling Road**
April 12-13 Virginia Intl
May 3-4 Summit Point @
May 25-26 Summit Point @
June 27-29 Virginia Intl*
July 12-13 Summit Point @
July 26-27 Roebling Road Raceway**
August 16-17 Barber Motorsports**
September 5-7 Summit Point *@
September 27-28 Virginia Intl
October 11-12 Summit Point Raceway *@

Southeast Roadracing Championship
Feb 27-March 2 Daytona Intl Speedway
March 29-30 Roebling Road**
April 12-13 Virginia Intl
May 3-4 N. FL Motorsports Park
June 14-15 Roebling Road Raceway**
June 27-29 Virginia Intl*
July 26-27 Roebling Road Raceway**
August 16-17 Barber Motorsports**
September 6-7 N. FL Motorsports Park
September 27-28 Virginia Intl*

[GAMEDIC]

Pacific Roadracing Championship
February 1-2 Streets of Willow *
March 15-16 Firebird East
May 10-11 LasVegas Classic Course @
May 31-June 1 Streets of Willow
July 5-6 Buttonwillow
August 16-17 Thunderhill Park
August 1-3 LasVegas Classic Course**@
October 4-5 Thunderhill Park      
November 1-2 Buttonwillow
Nov 29-30 Streets of Willow*

Southwest Roadracing Championship
February 1-2 Streets of Willow *
March 15-16 Firebird East
April 12-13 Firebird East
May 10-11 Las Vegas Classic Course
May 31-June 1 Streets of Willow
July 5-6 Buttonwillow
August 1-3 Las Vegas Classic Course**
September 27-28 Firebird Intl
November 1-2 Buttonwillow
November 15-16 Firebird East *

Mid-West Roadracing Championship
April 5-6 Blackhawk Farms *
April 25-27 Road America**@
May 10-11 Blackhawk Farms
May 23-25 Mid-America Motorplex*
May 31-June 1 Blackhawk Farms
June 14-15 Gateway Intl Raceway
July 4-6 Mid-America Motorplex**@
July 19-20 Blackhawk Farms
August 8-10 Heartland Park*
August 23-24 Blackhawk Farms
September 6-7 Blackhawk Farms
September 27-28 Gingerman Raceway
October 4-5 Gateway Intl Raceway*

2003 Race of Champions XX
October 16-19, 2003
Daytona International Speedway

Formula USA / CCS National Championships
National Championship Series &
National Team Challenge Events
Feb 27-March 2 Daytona Intl
May 23-25 Mid-America Motorplex
June 13-15 New Hampshire Intl
June 27-29 Virginia Intl
August 8-10 Heartland Park
September 5-7 Summit Point
October 16-19 Daytona Intl

[GAMEDIC]

I mean i'm not trying to be mean..i'm just saying what everyone else is also saying..if it is broke fix it...and it is very obvious it is broke...and it seems nothing is being done about it....

[oldguy]

Hey, thanks guy! Now I can print this thread and see where I can go racing!  ;D  ;D  ;D

[Eric Kelcher]

count individual race events not region events and you will see the number of races. AKA don't count a cross over twice (or three or even eleven times  ::) )

[motomadness]

Eric,

Been meaning to ask, what's your position with CCS?  I know Tiffiney is your wife, but you often come to the defense of CCS.  Why?

Something is broken.  What does it take to fix?  It is certainly not excuses.  

Please answer why results are snail mailed to Chicago.  Why aren't they directly updated to the web from whomever initially gathers them?  This should be a very simple change that would increase the posting pace several folds in time and attention.

I say again, what can the membership do to assist CCS in enhancing the system.  Waiting for CCE to make a change is liking punching yourself in the face, eventually you knock yourself out and end up with nothing but a headache.

Spell out the process and let's get busy making suggestions on how to improve the system.  Maybe we, the membership should buy CCS from CCE, or at least the web reporting rights.