Passing under waving yellow?

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

Well this weeked while I cornerworked, I seen a few dimwits pass under the red. Simple rule, how hard is it to follow? :-/

[Gixxer124]

Well this weeked while I cornerworked, I seen a few dimwits pass under the red. Simple rule, how hard is it to follow? :-/

Oh man! That's the easiest time to pass. I imagine being a factory rider and all those slow guys observing the red flag are just backmarkers. OK, not really. ;D

[Jeff]

I was taught NO passing as soon as a waving yellow is visible.

Ummm, no.  Now I'm not trying to be a "richard" here, but that's not right.  The no passing zone is from 90degrees across from the corner worker waving the flag until 90degrees from the incident/obstruction/object

You are to get a hand in the air and let the folks in back of you know you are coming off race pace.  Slow to a prudent speed until you no longer see a waving yellow ahead.

Please God, don't do this in a CCS race if I'm behind you...  You will be punted into next week...

Stay alert, and be aware of your surroundings.  Don't stuff people, but don't back off your pace significantly.  If the problem is that large, they will red-flag the race

This is a hobby, this is club racing, not the WSB title fight.  The waving yellow is telling you something is dead ahead, in the race line and you need to avoid it.  Please start putting SAFETY first and leave the puny, ill-developed ego's at home!!!  >:(

Yes.  Let's start putting safety first.  In order to do that, you need to understand what the waving yellow flag is telling you.

The waving yellow indicates a "potentially hazardous on or near the racing line or crash impact zone".

Most often times, the bikes are well off the track.  If there is debris, etc ON the track there will be a debris flag or they will red-flag the race...

Coming significantly OFF your race pace is dangerous in this situation...

Sorry for my rant, but I have already read about far too many accidents this year.  I am almost glad I don't have the cash to get out there just yet...    :'(

Just figure out the facts of the crashes before striking a tangent against something incorrectly...

[r6_philly]

you just basically re-typed my response from the top of the thread  :P

[Jeff]

Correct, but I wanted to stress the point since Dave333 replied after your post with a "hold your hand up and brake when you see the flag"...

That'd result similar to Kurtis Roberts at Daytona in 2001 when he saw the pace car...

[Eddie#200]

Correct, but I wanted to stress the point since Dave333 replied after your post with a "hold your hand up and brake when you see the flag"...

That'd result similar to Kurtis Roberts at Daytona in 2001 when he saw the pace car...

During a race somebody did that going into turn 1 just in front of me.  The waiving yellow came out as I was approaching to pass him late braking for turn #1.  When I was about 30 -40 feet behind him the waiving yellow flag came out to signal a rider down.  He hit the brakes and I almost knocked him into next week.  After the race I very politely said that he needs to carry his speed through the corner... he looked at me like I was crazy.  All I can say is if you slow that much during a race, you WILL get hurt and I don't want you out there.  

[tigerblade]

I was taught "Race to the flag".  You don't slow down when you reach it, you just don't pass until you're past the incident.  

[bmfgsxr]

ive lost positions from this before too. i lost out on contingency money from it too. that really pisses me off. if the corner workers dont see it then i dont think there is much you can do. unless you have an onboard cam that catches the whole thing.

[r6_philly]

ive lost positions from this before too. i lost out on contingency money from it too. that really pisses me off. if the corner workers dont see it then i dont think there is much you can do. unless you have an onboard cam that catches the whole thing.

Even if you have footage, there is no way of proving that the other person could have 'safely' backed off the pass. I think its just something that you have to practice, to defend, go your normal speed, and be ready for a situation ahead. I have lost a race because of it.

[Jeff]

See, people often times forget that there are people behind them, and FASTER people behind them...

Road America is a dangerous example...  People will cross the finish line and let off the throttle & sit up.  Terribly dangerous thing to do since there will be people right behind you coming up MUCH faster who are racing to the flag.

It took me a few races my first year to realize that the waving yellow was nothing special.  I use it as a "catch-up" flag now  ;D

[dave333]

See, people often times forget that there are people behind them, and FASTER people behind them...

For those "faster" people:

If my understanding of the rules erred on the side of being overly cautious, then maybe I should just let the over-active ego's have the track to themselves.  Please go back and read what I said.  If I get a hand up or a foot out and then slow down, you better be able to avoid me.  If you "punt me into next week" you are riding over your head and out of control.  


Don't you folks get it??  This is a hobby.  If your riding endangers your life or much worse, someone elses life, you need to find something else to do on the weekends.

[dave333]

Man am I getting old... :(


To think I used to be a beer-drinker and a hell-raiser...   ::)