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Started by RC51Racer, May 28, 2003, 04:20:17 AM

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RC51Racer

...., the Formual Almost Forty.  Just be close to 40 and sign up.

Super Dave

Can I ride my 1973 H1 in it and be 35?
Super Dave

EX#996

QuoteCan I ride my 1973 H1 in it and be 35?

LOL!!!

That would be Formula 105 (age of the bike and the rider).  We used to have that at horse shows where you would add the age of the horse and the rider.

Dawn   :)
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RC51Racer

QuoteCan I ride my 1973 H1 in it and be 35?

I bet you can, just talk to Kevin Elloit.

sdiver68

I would love for Formula 40 to be the age of bike and rider.  I think I would do OK on a 96 GSXR750 :)
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KBOlsen

I could bring the Tiller!  Yippee!!
CCS AM 815... or was that 158?

MightyDuc Racing

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 ;D
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RC51Racer

I as far as I can tell, the rule book has been thrown away, and with just a phone call to the proper individual, you can get anything changed.  To hell with the rule book, we'll just say we forgot to change it!!

That's the way myself, and a a few others see it.  It must be the corrct procedure, it's the one in use.

Normally, I don't vent, but times have changed.


Dawn

Go ahead and vent Mike, we all do at times.

Some will agree with you and other's won't, but you will need to give more details in regards to the situation if anyone is going to form an opinion one way or another.  

This is my understanding of the situation, please let me know if this is incorrect.

A local racer heard that there was going to be a rule change for F40 class for the year 2003.  It stated that anyone who would turn 40 in the first half of the year would be able to race that class and obtain points.  This racer contact Kevin Elliott, the director of competition, and asked if that was true.  Kevin said yes.  This racer then pre-entered for the entire 2003 racing season this past January based on the conversation with Mr. Elliott.

The 2003 rule book was issued and the rule change did not make it in the book.  An error on CCS's part.

All was fine until the May 17th race at Gateway when it was discovered that this local racer was 39 and would not be 40 until June.  CCS was about to disallow all points in that class earned this year and not allow him to participate in classes that he was pre-entered for.

An appeal was filed by this local racer, a board was formed, and the judgement was found in this local racer's favor.

This local racer in my opinion played by the rules.  It wasn't a problem with any of you guys until he told the truth.  Perhaps he should have just have kept his mouth shut.

I know everyone involved, and I think all acted with integrity.  The local racer abided by what his was told and went through the proper steps and procedures.  Kevin Elliott admitted his mistake when presented to the board.

My $0.02

Dawn  

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Can't we all just get along?   ;D
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Baltobuell

 Gad Zooks, it's F40. It's supposed to be fun.

 PS: at Summit I had a blast as a midpacker racing with a  buddy on a 600. We can get in each others way real good. ;D

KBOlsen

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With absent friends in mind, thank you Dawn.
CCS AM 815... or was that 158?

K3 Chris Onwiler

Go ahead Mr Schock.  Name names.

I hope we're still going to be friends after this.  It's not like I was trying to screw anybody.  Dawn called it exactly as it happened.

What really impressed me was the fact that Kevin Elliot openly admitted that he had told me about the rule change but forgot to add it to the book.  He lost a lot of face on that one.  It would have been so easy for him to deny the whole thing.  All he would have had to do was develop a case of "Selective Memory," and I would have been SOL, looking like a cheater, and stripped of the clean reputation that I'm so proud of.  It took guts to own up like Kevin did.
The frame was snapped, the #3 rod was dangling from a hole in the cases, and what was left had been consumed by fire.  I said, "Hey, we've got all night!"
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K3 Chris Onwiler

QuoteI as far as I can tell, the rule book has been thrown away, and with just a phone call to the proper individual, you can get anything changed.  To hell with the rule book, we'll just say we forgot to change it!!


Think about it.  I don't have money.  I don't carry influence.  I'm not good looking.  I'm not even really that fast.  How exactly would I have the ability to place a phone call and get the rulebook changed to my advantage?  
We've been friends a long time, but after the decision at MAM you snubbed me.  What's up with that?
A panel of RACERS heard the appeal, weighed the evidence, then decided in my favor.  I didn't carry any weight with them.  It was truly a jury of my peers, and couldn't have been any more fair.

The frame was snapped, the #3 rod was dangling from a hole in the cases, and what was left had been consumed by fire.  I said, "Hey, we've got all night!"
Read HIGHSIDE! @ http://www.chrisonwiler.com

Gixxer124

How about Formula 42. Sorry K3, your to young. ;D

roadracer797

How about F43 sorry Kevin now your too young, oh and no yellow plated sand baggers either.

RC51Racer

All I'm trying to say is there is a printed rule book.  Do we use it or not?


EX#996

QuoteHow about F43 sorry Kevin now your too young, oh and no yellow plated sand baggers either.

LOL!!!

Poor Kevin, he can't get any respect or sympathy.

Dawn   ;D
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tigerblade

QuoteAll I'm trying to say is there is a printed rule book.  Do we use it or not?


Sure!  Got an uneven leg on your breakfast table?    ;)
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Super_KC124

QuoteHow about F43 sorry Kevin now your too young, oh and no yellow plated sand baggers either.
Oh yeh! I'll be 43 within 6 months. Read the new rule book you old fart.

roadracer797

Kevin
That only states about 40 not 43 you young sandbagger you
and my rule book says nothing about turning it says you must be
Craig

Baltobuell

You guys are goofy, I'd sell my house to be too young for f40.

lightweightgp

QuoteGo ahead and vent Mike, we all do at times.
A local racer heard that there was going to be a rule change for F40 class for the year 2003.  It stated that anyone who would turn 40 in the first half of the year would be able to race that class and obtain points.   


i thought that i could race F40 if i was going to turn  40 during the calendar year.   that is the way it has always been explained to me.   i admit to not checking the rule book on it, though.

Bernie

QuoteYou guys are goofy, I'd sell my house to be too young for f40.

I used to be able to make a kick ass fake ID.  Waddya want, like 27 or something? :P

Baltobuell

Oh if ID would only make it real. I'd start again at about 12.

Super_KC124

QuoteOh if ID would only make it real. I'd start again at about 12.
I'd go for 39 so I could start a year early in F40.

the_weggie_man

So when do we get a F50 class? :o

Super_KC124

Why not? There are quite a few of you "Golden Anniversery Edition" racers out there. ;D

the_weggie_man

My point .... dirt trackers have a senior and super senior class why shouldn't we? Hell we have a class for everything else. A couple more and we can have less practice and shorter races. Isn't that what you all pay increased fees for? ???

Let's see.... a bagger class for full dressers, cruiser class, motard class, minis, classic, vintage, the list goes on. Oh yeah and no minimum participation required, one bike and you have a class. ;D

Baltobuell

 Now that's the spirit. Someday I'm going to win the old white guys on limited displacement air cooled twins class. Then I'll be somebody.

K3 Chris Onwiler

QuoteNow that's the spirit. Someday I'm going to win the old white guys on limited displacement air cooled twins class. Then I'll be somebody.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Too funny!
The frame was snapped, the #3 rod was dangling from a hole in the cases, and what was left had been consumed by fire.  I said, "Hey, we've got all night!"
Read HIGHSIDE! @ http://www.chrisonwiler.com

Super_KC124

Don't forget the scooter class. :-X

Baltobuell

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 The day they start my new class, D. Bugsy Mann will be stopping by Gary Nixons house. They'll be screwing around and break out the old Rickmans to see if they run and say 'Hey, For the hell of it, lets go to Summit" (sigh)