SV 650 class question

[Sumguitardude]

Hey guys, I am going to be racing my stock motored SV650 this season for the first time.

I will be attending all of the CCS Midwest events.

I want to race in 4 events per day and my question is, which 4 classes would a stock motored SV be most competitive in?

I was thinking LWSS, ULSB, GTL but am having trouble deciding on the fourth.

Are most guys running LWGP, LWSB?

I just don't want to go up against SV's with 90+ HP if I can avoid it!

If anyone has any tips for a first time SV racer in the Midwest, feel free to post them.

Thanks!

[trace33chargers]

If you are fast, you will be competitive in all lightweight classes (in AM). You are good with LWSS and ULSB. The other classes are a crapshoot. Superbikes are legal in the other lightweight classes, and GP and GTL are basically unlimited except displacements (this is the class with 565s and Ducati hybrids, but you really shouldn't worry about it).

Just expect to do ok in 2 classes, and have fun in the 2 other classes (I'd strongly suggest GTL). Since this is your first year, just focus on getting tracktime and being consistent.

[LWT Racer]

MOST SV's will not be over 85hp. Most SVers don't want to dump $8-10k on a motor so you'll find most are around 75-low 80's in hp.

[Sumguitardude]

Thanks for the info guys, looks like I will be racing in LWSS, LWSB, ULSB, and GTL.

I definitely don't want to go up against a GSXR565!

[Jwhite316]

I won 4 championships with a gen1 stock motor in 2013.  There was a pretty big amatuer field last year so alot of them will be moving up.  You might find one guy with alot of money and a fast bike but its doubtful.  I reccomend running as many classes as you can, or feel comfortable with and then choose the ones that have the biggest field.  One thing I always hated as an amatuer was in LWSS when there was only 2 or 3 other guys to race against. Championships are fine, but the real reward is in the actual racing!

[apriliaman]

Lots of SV's in my area Mid Atlantic and Atlantic region.Supersport spec also.

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

Wouldnt worry about other sv's starting out racing. Just go out to learn the trade. As said before, the high $$$$ stuff doesnt usually show up at bhf. There was a 565 at road america, but was dq'd after being protested from what I heard. Even then those bikes are usually wearing white plates.

[cooker1]

Like Jwhite 316 said race as many classes as you can then run the ones you feel best in ! It is about the racing and getting the experience after that you get the championships took me 3 years to win 1 !I run a stock SV and raced against him in 2013 but was almost always 2nd place ! I just kept at it and it finally paid off ! The main thing is to learn and have fun ask ?s of other racers most give advice freely and want to help riders become better !

[Sumguitardude]

Thanks for the replies guys.

I see Autobahn is tentative on the schedule, if that becomes an event, will they have a race school the day before the races?
As I don't have a license and I don't want to miss out on any events this year.

I can try and attend the MCRA event at Putnam Park April 18th to get my license but I'd rather just get it done in one weekend if possible.

[trace33chargers]

I don't see Autobahn happening, and if it does, I think it would be unlikely you'd get a race school that day.

[Doxgon22]

Currently unknown.  As soon as the schedule is finalized, the race director and Learning Curves School will determine the school schedule when the race weekend schedule is finalized.  It will be posted as soon as possible, I promise.  I should know, I'm an instructor for Learning Curves......

[backMARKr]

Currently unknown.  As soon as the schedule is finalized, the race director and Learning Curves School will determine the school schedule when the race weekend schedule is finalized.  It will be posted as soon as possible, I promise.  I should know, I'm an instructor for Learning Curves......

But! He is a chiropractor, and you cannot trust those voodoo artists!






Hi Doc! 

[cooker1]

I would try for the MCRA class they have excellent instructors and will give you a head start on the racing season instead of trying to pack it all into one weekend with CCS !

[Sumguitardude]

Where are you Midwest SV guys getting your tires from?
I'd like to do a few track days before the first race weekend to get everything on the bike sorted out, and getting race tires trackside has been impossible riding with Sportbike Track Time, as they only sell Michelin.

I was hoping to get a set of Pirelli Super Corsa DOT's and a set of Pirelli Rains.

Or are there any other Manufacturers that make a good 160 DOT and rain tire?

I used to ride on the Bridgestone 165 Slick but I'll need a DOT to run SS.

[trace33chargers]

Unless Kevin has a change of heart, supersport SVs can only pick from Dunlop and Pirelli (I think only those 2) for DOT Race tires. Otherwise you have to use street/trackday tires which is still getting harder for a 160.

Jason Farrell is a Pirelli vendor. Not sure who to get Dunlops from.

[Jwhite316]

Unless Kevin has a change of heart, supersport SVs can only pick from Dunlop and Pirelli (I think only those 2) for DOT Race tires. Otherwise you have to use street/trackday tires which is still getting harder for a 160.

Jason Farrell is a Pirelli vendor. Not sure who to get Dunlops from.

I believe MotoRider is vendor for Dunlop and Michelin. 160s are getting harder and harder to come by. Most of the expert sv's have converted to a 180 setup, Only real downside being you can't run super sport. Best advice is to contact vendor a couple weeks in advance and reserve your rubber and see what they have.

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

Unless Kevin has a change of heart, supersport SVs can only pick from Dunlop and Pirelli (I think only those 2) for DOT Race tires. Otherwise you have to use street/trackday tires which is still getting harder for a 160.

Jason Farrell is a Pirelli vendor. Not sure who to get Dunlops from.

Actually its the tire mfgs that are why we have a slim selection of 160's, not Kevin. Theres a Bridgestone guy there also, Turn One Racing I think, but you'd have to get a hold of him to make sure they have 160's for you.

[cooker1]

You need tires in the MW ? Good Grip Racing ( Pirelli & Michelin )can take care of you ! The owner also runs Midwest Trackdays which you should check out to get in on some awesome track time and excellent coaching ! We have (IMHO) the best coaching staff in the Midwest !

[trace33chargers]

Actually its the tire mfgs that are why we have a slim selection of 160's, not Kevin. Theres a Bridgestone guy there also, Turn One Racing I think, but you'd have to get a hold of him to make sure they have 160's for you.

I meant Kevin is not letting the LW SS class run slicks or GSXR or F3 wheels (for the SV guys) so we can run any tire. Manufacturers are part of the problem, CCS just isn't finding a way to adapt to the problem.

[Sumguitardude]

You need tires in the MW ? Good Grip Racing ( Pirelli & Michelin )can take care of you ! The owner also runs Midwest Trackdays which you should check out to get in on some awesome track time and excellent coaching ! We have (IMHO) the best coaching staff in the Midwest !

Is that Jeff Wheat? I am friends with him on Facebook and have ridden with Midwest Trackday a few times.
I didn't know he ran Good Grip Racing too!

[Sean_Jordan]

Hi all!


I had some class questions as well, so I'll stick to this thread.


I have a Supersport prepped 1st gen SV650, but I do have two rear rims so I can do 160 or 180 rubber.


If I were to run 3 classes as a novice in the Mid-Atlantic region, with one of them being GTL, which other two classes should I run? I know LWSS leaves me with the stock rim and DOT tires running slicks would be nice as I understand you get more time out of them. (When I raced in the past, I never used slicks and I've always wanted to try them. I'd prefer not to buy two rear tires though!) I was leaning towards LWSB and ULSB... is that unwise? Should I definitely focus on including LWSS? Perhaps someone could weigh in on what kind of bikes are showing up for the LW classes in the Mid-Atlantic region. Thanks!

[cooker1]

Yes it is Jeff contact him !