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Started by Ungwaha, November 30, 2014, 12:36:17 PM

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Quote from: d0wn5h1ft on December 02, 2014, 11:29:14 AM
Doesn't it say that the engine has to be from the same production model motorcycle?

I had some questions about the thunderbike rules too.  It says Thunderbike Lightweight allows for '90-'92 up to 650cc.  So what do they judge the year by?  The number stamped on the frame or the number stamped on the engine cases or do they have to match?  The reason I ask is I have a 1994 FZR600.  From '90 to '98 they are almost completely unchanged (except for foxeye FZRs)  I assume I couldn't race this in the Thunderbike LW class?  But according to the "engine from the same production model motorcycle" I could buy a '90-'92 FZR600 frame and swap all of my '94 stuff into it.  Seems a bit stupid since the '90-'92 FZR600's are identical to my '94 and all of that work would be just to have a frame that said '90-'92...

You cannot swap engines in Thunderbike.  If the model changed according to Yamaha, then you can only use the 90-92 motor.  That being said, SV and ER6 guys use cross generation motors as they are basically the same. So idk...
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Quote from: Swiest on December 02, 2014, 11:34:28 AM
You cannot swap engines in Thunderbike.  If the model changed according to Yamaha, then you can only use the 90-92 motor.  That being said, SV and ER6 guys use cross generation motors as they are basically the same. So idk...


That's the thing, the FZR600 model was made from '89-'98.  With the only major change being a wider wheel and 4 piston calipers in '90 which doesn't matter because brake upgrades are apparently unlimited in Thunderbike.  Why is it then you can only use '90-'92 FZR600's in that class?  I wouldn't have a problem buying a '90-'92 frame and swapping all my '94 components into it I guess but that seems like a lot of work seeing as they're the same Yamaha model name

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Quote from: d0wn5h1ft on December 02, 2014, 11:29:14 AM
Doesn't it say that the engine has to be from the same production model motorcycle?

I had some questions about the thunderbike rules too.  It says Thunderbike Lightweight allows for '90-'92 up to 650cc.  So what do they judge the year by?  The number stamped on the frame or the number stamped on the engine cases or do they have to match?  The reason I ask is I have a 1994 FZR600.  From '90 to '98 they are almost completely unchanged (except for foxeye FZRs)  I assume I couldn't race this in the Thunderbike LW class?  But according to the "engine from the same production model motorcycle" I could buy a '90-'92 FZR600 frame and swap all of my '94 stuff into it.  Seems a bit stupid since the '90-'92 FZR600's are identical to my '94 and all of that work would be just to have a frame that said '90-'92...
Sorry,i always get confused.....is the foxeye what later became the yzf600? I know the headlights you are talking about,but i never checked to see if it was a re-bodied FZR,or the frame was different too. I wish CCS would just have a 90's superbike/forgotten era class for Pre-99ish bikes ::) Especially right now with the Mid_atlantic V6+V7 guys looking for a place to race without having to drive all over the country.Thats how i got here in the first place.

Woofentino Pugrossi

Quote from: d0wn5h1ft on December 02, 2014, 11:29:14 AM
Doesn't it say that the engine has to be from the same production model motorcycle?

I had some questions about the thunderbike rules too.  It says Thunderbike Lightweight allows for '90-'92 up to 650cc.  So what do they judge the year by?  The number stamped on the frame or the number stamped on the engine cases or do they have to match?  The reason I ask is I have a 1994 FZR600.  From '90 to '98 they are almost completely unchanged (except for foxeye FZRs)  I assume I couldn't race this in the Thunderbike LW class?  But according to the "engine from the same production model motorcycle" I could buy a '90-'92 FZR600 frame and swap all of my '94 stuff into it.  Seems a bit stupid since the '90-'92 FZR600's are identical to my '94 and all of that work would be just to have a frame that said '90-'92...

When I raced a 93 f2 Kevin allowed it in thunderbike since it was unchanged from the 92 model. Also he said fzr600 up to 98-99 also allowed due to unchanged from 92 and earlier.
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d0wn5h1ft

Quote from: Woofentino Pugrossi on December 02, 2014, 09:22:27 PM
When I raced a 93 f2 Kevin allowed it in thunderbike since it was unchanged from the 92 model. Also he said fzr600 up to 98-99 also allowed due to unchanged from 92 and earlier.

I assume you just had to email him prior to get approval?  Was there any sort of extra race registration things you had to do to run it?

Woofentino Pugrossi

Quote from: d0wn5h1ft on December 03, 2014, 08:05:22 AM
I assume you just had to email him prior to get approval?  Was there any sort of extra race registration things you had to do to run it?

Yeah I emailed him. Kept a copy in my toolbox in case tech said no.

Brit the yzf600 was a totally different bike from the fzr600.
Rob

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