2015 Schedule

[SVbadguy]

CCS went to Barber from '03 to '09.  Turnout dropped every year. 

My first time was in' 04. Huge turnout. http://www.ccsracing.us/x/results/2004/081504-barberccs.htm

But it's a really long drive for most.  12 hours for me in middle of the Mid-Atlantic. And the rising cost of gas+recession in those final years wasn't helping.

[tug296]

Although the AHRMA folks had a great turnout at Barber and over 63,000 paid  spectators.

[apriliaman]

Yep 44 in GT Lights in 2004!! i was there in 2006 and there was like 35 then by 2009 only 6 bikes.

[Gino230]

AHRMA has so many people that want to race Barber that they won't accept your entry unless you've raced with them elsewhere that season.

Definitely going there next season with them.

[MACOP1104]

Everyone must be drunk at the ahrma weekend.   The laptimes are slowwwwwwwwwwwwww.

[Gino230]

Everyone must be drunk at the ahrma weekend.   The laptimes are slowwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Have you seen the bikes???

I was watching one race at Daytona and I swear I thought it was the Harley parade lap.

PS They do have free beer during the awards presentation after the races. Kinda neat hearing "the bar is open!" over the PA.

[LWT Racer]

Have you seen the bikes???

I was watching one race at Daytona and I swear I thought it was the Harley parade lap.

PS They do have free beer during the awards presentation after the races. Kinda neat hearing "the bar is open!" over the PA.

Gotta spell it out for you...  :)

He's talking about all you FL guys on your Ducati's.  Slow as hell at Barber.

[Gino230]

I can't say, I wasn't there. Maybe you should come out for AHRMA so we can settle this discussion once and for all? But then again, it will just be me "cheating" on my big bore Duc Hybrid, right? 

In all seriousness, I have never been but I am aware that Barber is a very technical track, and not easy to learn.


And I do get the inference (however tiring it may be) that the WERA championship is so much more "real" because it's at Barber and not Daytona. So I guess that's why at the GNF there is only half the # of riders in the MW fields? And all those AMA regulars I raced against at Daytona must have just been going for an easy win, right? Pinning it around the banking is all?

[LWT Racer]

Sv's don't win at Daytona, no chance with big ducs.  But at barber, if you look at lap times. SV can win.  Xaiver Zayat with a 1:33.6, stock bore SV650.  Mavros, 1:45 on his 800, 1:38 on his 848.  Peulo was 1:48ish on his 1170rs.  So Please try and back up Daytona and how it's not pin it to win it (in light weight classes) when the guys that do very well on those all FL pin it, poin and shoot tracks can't do shit at Barber? 

There are other who will do well where ever, like Melka.  Obviously the guy can flat out ride anything, putting him on that duc depot 1100 hybrid is just insane combination and very fun to watch. 

[LWT Racer]

lightweight grids were HUGE at GNF.

http://lwtracer.com/roadracing/x-man-crushes-barber-at-2014-wera-gnf/

[MACOP1104]

Have you seen the bikes???

I was watching one race at Daytona and I swear I thought it was the Harley parade lap.

PS They do have free beer during the awards presentation after the races. Kinda neat hearing "the bar is open!" over the PA.

I'm not clear on the AHRMA class rules, I just looked at the lap times of known riders and the machines they were on.   I'm assuming some of it had to do with the more relaxed atmosphere of Ahrma racing, but that is pure speculation on my part.   

Xavier's performance certainly threw off the bell shaped curve.   But even after removing Xavier from the equation, there is a huge difference in lap times between the AHRMA and WERA weekend.  During the WEERA GNF, over 1/2 the field in lwtss were running sub 40 lap times with the majority running in the 38s on 75ish hp SV650s.  Robby McClendon (a very talented and fast rider) won an AHRMA race doing 40s.   At the WERA weekend on the same SV, he got down to 35s and that got him a 3rd place in F2.

No doubt Barber is a very technical and challenging track.   It is a track that favors rider's talent over HP.   Perfect!

[Gino230]

Mavros, 1:45 on his 800, 1:38 on his 848.  Peulo was 1:48ish on his 1170rs.  So Please try and back up Daytona and how it's not pin it to win it (in light weight classes) when the guys that do very well on those all FL pin it, poin and shoot tracks can't do shit at Barber? 

Puleo has never won anything at Daytona to my knowledge, (except last year when we co-rode to second in the TC) so how is comparing the 12th place rider to your local ringer apples to apples? Yes Mavros is a winner, against guys like Ricky Orlando, John Gaelefke, etc at Daytona. They were also on fast bikes.

I submit that Pony (Rodolpho Ramirez), or Silva could have been top 3 on an SV at Barber too?

Sure, the Ducs have an advantage at Daytona. I won't argue that one bit.

But to say that the GNF is a better judge of talent is horse sh*t and you know it. The fastest guys are going to win, period. By the way, I didn't see your name on any of those results so what exactly are we debating here?