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Bridgestone R-10 Feedback....

Started by MAZZ77X, July 07, 2013, 02:20:21 PM

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MAZZ77X

Anyone running the R-10?

Id like to hear your thoughts and opinions VS the others.... Pirelli/Dunlop.

Thanks, Anthony

MELK-MAN

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all good tires! and you are asking about different brands or I wouldn't have posted about the r10's (have no idea about em).
you will get opinions on all fronts so here's one:
i'm winning more races in a season than i have ever won.. on Michelin :) In the last 3 rounds, i have won 13 races in 18 starts.. the new Michelin cup is amazing. doesn't matter how good the rear tire is, the front of a motorcycle is where lap times are made, and the cup fronts are the best tires i have ran in 10 years of racing motorcycles.
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apriliaman

For me the front last along time,i get around 15-20 sessions on them.My laptimes on the SV doesn't drop much,if your on a 600-1000 it may be a different story.The rear is great when new but the traction does go away within 20 laps,unlike the front.Slicks are a completely different tire and last alot longer but they ride alot stiffer.
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supercarl

I run the R10's. Havent run another tire in two years though so I dont have much comparison. But I like them and I love their contingency. If I pulled my head out of my butt I could win expert races on them but for now I'm podiuming. Ive never had an issue with the front, the rear works great, but after a few races you definitly notice a loss in traction on the drive. probably the same with other brand tires. The front tire I regularly go 7 or 8 races a day with no issues. Its solid.

That being said, alot of fast expert guys tell me that michelins are the way to go and I should switch over lol.
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MELK-MAN

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Quote from: supercarl on July 08, 2013, 10:05:52 AM
I run the R10's. Havent run another tire in two years though so I dont have much comparison. But I like them and I love their contingency. If I pulled my head out of my butt I could win expert races on them but for now I'm podiuming. Ive never had an issue with the front, the rear works great, but after a few races you definitly notice a loss in traction on the drive. probably the same with other brand tires. The front tire I regularly go 7 or 8 races a day with no issues. Its solid.

That being said, alot of fast expert guys tell me that michelins are the way to go and I should switch over lol.

well.. if ya wanna go faster, ya need a better tire. Or, be born an alien and have superpowers to ride faster than anyone no matter what the issues. It's no mystery that there are no consistent podium finishers in the 600-1000cc classes on the b-stones. price is right on em, ya might collect some contingency, but there has to be a reason more of the "fast" riders on the bigger bikes are not using them.
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kvanengen

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What bike are you on??

apriliaman

If Michelin would come out with some contingency again I may try them out.For now since I dont have much money and just make it to the track I'm using Bridgestone for now.For this year so far I haven't even spent $500 for tires yet In 7 race weekends so far I did.
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supercarl

I'm on an R6 and yea I'm on the same boat as apriliaman. If Michelin would come out with some contingency or help me out with tires I would consider switching, but right now I just cant afford to. I'll just try to reach alien status on my bridgestones for now  :biggrin:
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MELK-MAN

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Quote from: supercarl on July 09, 2013, 07:19:25 AM
I'm on an R6 and yea I'm on the same boat as apriliaman. If Michelin would come out with some contingency or help me out with tires I would consider switching, but right now I just cant afford to. I'll just try to reach alien status on my bridgestones for now  :biggrin:

let me know how that works out for ya when ya get some white plates ;) You will want a faster tire..and will not be as concerned about tire contingency as there will (understandably) be fewer times you will collect (at least for awhile). If you are a fast am rider, i totally get it. if you podium consistently on even a lesser and cheaper tire, and they give you contingency awards, why not run them ! no worries.
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MAZZ77X

Quote from: kvanengen on July 08, 2013, 05:54:21 PM

What bike are you on??

My son, and he's riding an SV 650. Gonna do the 180 wheel conversion so running a 120/180 combo opens up our tire choices......

supercarl

Quote from: MELK-MAN on July 09, 2013, 04:48:36 PM
let me know how that works out for ya when ya get some white plates ;) You will want a faster tire..and will not be as concerned about tire contingency as there will (understandably) be fewer times you will collect (at least for awhile). If you are a fast am rider, i totally get it. if you podium consistently on even a lesser and cheaper tire, and they give you contingency awards, why not run them ! no worries.

I actually do have my white plates thank you very much!  :biggrin:  And I was able to score multiple 2nd and 3rd place finishes this last weekend at road america with my bstones. Got 2nd in ASRA Sportbike behind Dano too. But that expert win still eludes me!

I'm making a little less contingency this year compared to my amateur year last year, but still enough to pay for all my tires so far. And at this point I think I'd rather spend my money on track time then a different brand of tires. New tires may improve my laptimes initially, but I feel like track time will improve my actual riding abilities. Thats why i sign up lots and lots of races. I need more experience  :cheers:  lol
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kvanengen

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Quote from: MAZZ77X on July 09, 2013, 05:58:33 PM
My son, and he's riding an SV 650. Gonna do the 180 wheel conversion so running a 120/180 combo opens up our tire choices......


Thank you, Anthony. I ask this question because every bike has a preference on tire. Yes, just as riders have a preference, so do the bikes we ride. Let me preface this by saying each of the major brands offer a great tire. It's about finding what tire you and your bike like the most. What tire choices work for a 600 or 1000 rider will likely not work for a lightweight rider. Coincidently the sv is a bike I know a thing or two about. Will Bridgestone's work well on a sv 650, yes. I had used the last generation Bridgestone and it worked well. Are they the ideal tire, I would argue no. After years of chasing the ideal sv setup I have come to the conclusion that Pirelli offers the best tire for the SV. Right now I have 75% of those who read this claiming I'm wrong behind their computer screens. Here is my logic. A sv weighs less than a 600/1000, also, it doesn't carry the same speeds. Therefore, a softer carcass which Pirelli has seems to work better and give the best feel back to the rider. Remember that the tire is part of your overall suspension setup and the softer carcass works well with the sv's suspension. To be clear, I don't believe they have the best grip out there. However, between grip, wear patterns, feedback etc... the Pirelli is the best tire for the job.

You had mentioned Dunlop in your original post. So I will address that. Dunlop offers a great tire for the right bike. Unfortunately, an sv is the last bike I would put them on. Their carcass is sooo stiff that it will be difficult to get heat into them while on an sv. I've used Dunlops on a 600 and really enjoyed them though.

As for the Michelin, great tire. The reason I got away from them is that they are a bit stiffer than the Pirelli which I felt did not give me as much feel. There are a few guys out there that go pretty well on the Michelin though.

Long story short, Bridgestone offers a very good tire. However, if you are looking for the absolute best tire (in my opinion) for an sv run Pirelli. If you're interested in contingency and find the tradeoff of a little less tire feel for some tire money, then run Bridgestone.

I hope this helps.

Thank you,
Kevin Van Engen