more classes, more money......

[Jwhite316]

Low 1;26's but my son got hung up in traffic cause of a bad start, turned som 1;25's but never caught me!

You and Jody were definitely flying on those things.  I think the Ninja 250 class is a great one to develop because the costs to operate are so low, its relatively safer than the bigger classes and you don't have to jump into the arms race like you do with the SV's in LW.  If you want any shot of even getting into the top 3 @ BHF on SV it better have 80 hp +.  With club racing on the brink of extinction, we need a class that is cheap and competitive.

[Super Dave]

   By the way, if some of you vets think the Ninja class is for beginers , you dont know what your missing!!

I think everyone knows it...

But the competition is individual survival.  IRA's, forced collapse of insurance structure through state and federal legislation. 

Even then, if one was in the business of club racing, one would think that this would be something to consider for, again, individual survival.  Henry's jumped on vintage racing and this.  I'd have to travel to do a 250 spec race...and it is interesting to me.  But the cost of a 450 mile trip is in the way.  But I already have a transmitter for that, so it wouldn't be so bad.  That's another story though...  :D

[twilkinson3]

Lol Jiggly, I've know bruce more than a couple years now...in June if that spare 250 is idle I might twist yer arm to let me spin it around for a race for grins and see - also check your pm box ....curiosity question in there for ya bruce

[proechel539]

I would love to have a 250, think it would be a blast to race and cheap also. Exactly what the Lightwieght class was a couple years ago, untill CCS rule committee totally F'ed up the class. Latest I heard was the Duc749 is now allowed in all LW classes. Think I will make my comeback on a Litre bike. Would be much cheaper to prep than a full Lw superbike!!

[fzr400tony]

I suggested in the Ninja 250 thread to bring back ULWSS and run it behind something like LWSS, ULWTB usually starts behind ULWSB, it seems. If I could have two sprints a weekend on a Ninja 250, I'd race one. It's the one class thing that sucks for me.

[Super Dave]

I suggested in the Ninja 250 thread to bring back ULWSS and run it behind something like LWSS, ULWTB usually starts behind ULWSB, it seems. If I could have two sprints a weekend on a Ninja 250, I'd race one. It's the one class thing that sucks for me.

CCS won't do anything, in my opinion, until every other organization has done it for about two years.  Or it is finally recognized as having been done for about two years.  And that make take two years.  So, figure about the time that the economy recovers.  But, potentially, by then, alternatives will be found by current racers and new racers may not even recognize CCS.

[Jiggyfly]

It's the one thing that sucks about ninja 250's.
I started a thread on the WERA forum, (which blew up & got ugly.....hard to imagine, I know.....) about the travel & other cost associated, & it'd be nice if there were more races to enter. Same with CCS. It would literally cost them $20 (or however much those pricy plaques cost!) to add another class to the back of whatever LW grid they wanted to!
As an example: add "Ninja 250 cup" to the back of "ULW superbike", add "250 supersport" to the back of "LW SS", add "250 superbike" to the back of "LW GP", & add "UL GT" to the back of "GTL".
There's no more track time dedicated.......it's with all LW bikes, which I haven't seen pose a problem on track. (for 250 guys anyway!  )....

CVMA
CRA
OMMRA
WMMRA

Check their grid sizes. 15-23 bikes. All ninja 250's. All orgs have 3+ races they can run.
Let's say it was only 10 for CCS......all 10 are going to enter all 4 races! Racing a 250, you're not tired, you haven't killed your tires, & you surely haven't used up all if your pricy 89 octane from Shell/BP/Mobil.....
So you've got 40 entries in a weekend, added....at what cost to a racing org?

This is the case of the "which came first, the chicken or the egg?"
CCS will evaluate it in a year or two, & say, "the numbers aren't there to support it",
but there has been enough done to support the growth of the 250 classes. Like I said, look at the other orgs!!!!
Can you imagine BHF with 20 ninja 250's x 4 classes???? It wouldn't be like the "old days", but it's be like "the more recent days"! Lol
I'm going to VIR next weekend. It's a 4-1/2 drive for me. 9 hours of driving......for ONE 8 lap race.
Do the math.....yes, I'll enter the GTL race, for more track time....& if there's any other Ninja 250 guys I'll encourage them to, as well, so we can have our own race-within-a-race. But still. I have no interest in the SV650 arms race. I have ZERO interest in anything 600cc+......Ninja 250's have resurrected my road racing obsession. If it doesn't make it with CCS/WERA.....I guess I'll pack it in.

(FWIW: I was told by WERA owner, Sean Clarke, that there's currently 3 or 4 classes Ninja 250's can run in. I've run 2; E super stock, & Clubman....doing well in both. I think the additional classes would not be competitive, but I'll report back on that.)


Rant, complete.

[bruce71198]

Jiggy, maybe this is the genious behind the CCS organization. They left Ninja 250 mods unregulated so we can build our bikes to be competitive in a greater number of classes without adding more classes to the event?  HMMMM......

[Jiggyfly]

Yeah! Yeah! that's it!!!!   Let's enter the SV650 arms race with a switchblade!! LOL!!