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Started by ronaldo9, January 20, 2012, 03:02:08 PM

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ronaldo9

Just read dunlop will have a new rear this year. Does anyone know the actual dimensions. Do you think it will have similar performance to the UK Ntec? I will probably try out both pirelli 180/60 and this new dunlop and see what I'm more comfortable on.
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ronaldo9

Guess no one really cares for this thread but I just wanted to update and say I used the 190/60 gpa at an Absolute track day at NJMP and thought they were simply awesome. The side grip is fantastic especially exiting a corner and seem to wear very well. I have some tearing on the right side but could be suspension related as I did not make any suspension changes just threw them on and rode.
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Gixxerblade

You have lower the rear a bit from what I remember.

Gino230

I just switched from the Pirelli DOT to the GPA DOT. I'm running a Duc 1000 LW bike.

I had to raise the rear 1mm to compensate for the size difference, Dunlop provided a chart. Mostly because Dunlop doesn't have a 180, only a 190?

I put them on at Homestead, but it's hard to compare because it rained on and off all weekend and the track had very little grip, so I couldn't push.

I then ran them at Roebling, but it was my first time there and again I didn't push the tire very hard.

Ran the same set for 2 days at JGP, and I started to push the tire a bit there. By then they had about 120 laps on them- the front still felt good, as did the rear. I did lose the rear once and I was expecting a little more warning. The Pirelli rear is a little softer construction so it squirms a little, then spins more predictably I think. The Dunlop probably would do the same but not with 120 laps on it! Still I was pleased with the level of grip. The tire definitely feels stiffer than the Pirellis. I would feel comfortable running the front some more, but I have never just changed one tire- for me it's more about confidence and front traction is not something I like to play games with.

I am also trying out the US made Ntec slick on my 749, I have yet to find the limit so I can't compare it to the Euro tire.
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LoneStar

I ran 180/60 at CMP last weekend at CMP.  Man!  Is CMP hard on tires!  All I could think about is the dollars shedding off those tires after every race.
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The new U.S. tire is much improved front and rear compared to previous years.  The front has benefited the most from improvements.  I still think the UK tire is slightly better, but it may be just what I'm used to.  The new rear needs to have even less psi than before by a couple lb to prevent cold tearing.  Not sure why they went to the 190/60 over the 190/55, but may have something to do with the revised profile.  Makes a big tire even bigger for the 600's.
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Gixxerblade

Quote from: LoneStar on April 17, 2012, 02:44:24 PM
I ran 180/60 at CMP last weekend at CMP.  Man!  Is CMP hard on tires!  All I could think about is the dollars shedding off those tires after every race.
LOL  I don't think Dunlop has a 180/60. I didn't have that same issues with my tires shredding. I had good wear even after a 36 lap stint in TC. On the 600 I went through 1.5 rears in 7 races, if that makes sense. :)
I asked Paul what difference between the new 190/55 and 190/60 and he said profile and size, the 60 being slightly taller with a different profile.

LoneStar

Quote from: Gixxerblade on April 18, 2012, 05:53:23 AM
LOL  I don't think Dunlop has a 180/60. I didn't have that same issues with my tires shredding. I had good wear even after a 36 lap stint in TC. On the 600 I went through 1.5 rears in 7 races, if that makes sense. :)
I asked Paul what difference between the new 190/55 and 190/60 and he said profile and size, the 60 being slightly taller with a different profile.

Ooops!  It was a GP 195/65 slick.
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Quote from: Gixxerblade on April 18, 2012, 05:53:23 AM
I didn't have that same issues with my tires shredding. I had good wear even after a 36 lap stint in TC. On the 600 I went through 1.5 rears in 7 races, if that makes sense. :)

What compound did you use in the TC?

I was using Med+.  I showed my tire to the Dunlop guy and he said it was normal for this track.  It was just rolled/chunked up rubber.  I would say I went through 1 rear in 1/2 track day, 1 practice round, and 8 sprint races on a Ducati 848 on CMP.
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Gixxerblade

In TC we rode a 1000 and used a medium Dunlop American made spec slick. Granted T-man was there and helped with the setup. Lol!