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Started by Ducmarc, July 05, 2011, 07:23:45 PM

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Ducmarc


After seeing a 800 ducati motor stuffed into a 749 what exactly are the rules in ultralight orare there any

PlayHard

Hmmm, interesting Marc. 

How's your season going?  I've missed racing with you guys.  I just did Road Atlanta with WERA, that place is just plain awesome.  I will see you guys at Jennings and Daytona. 
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kawtipping

If it is a 2 valve motor the max is 800cc (desmo or not), 4 valve is 750 if memory serves correctly.  So if the bike was an air cooled 800, it is technically legal.  If it was punched out to an 800 and is a 4 valve (which is liquid cooled), then it was breaking the rules.
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roadracer162

I think the question is more about stuffing an air-cooled motor into a (water cooled motor) frame. Not all water cooled 750 fit into the class or the Ducati 748 would be included.

The more likely question is, "can we swap to a different motor configuration and still remain legal"?
Mark Tenn
CCS Ex #22
Mark Tenn Motorsports, Michelin tire guy in Florida.

Gino230

For GP and GT it's legal. Not legal for SB, SS, Thunderbike.

Motocorse has built an 848 with 1100 2 valve air cooled motor. Very competitive against the Bimotas at half the price....

CCS / ASRA EX # 23
2012 Ducati 848 / 1100 Conversion     2005 Ducati 749RS
2006 CCS Florida Thunderbike Champion (AM)
2008 CCS LW Supersport National Champion (EX) 2nd in 2011 and now  2012....damn you Mavros!

roadracer162

There are some using second gen motors in their first gen SV.
Mark Tenn
CCS Ex #22
Mark Tenn Motorsports, Michelin tire guy in Florida.

Gino230

Are the engine cases the same as 1st gen years? If so It would appear to be legal. Rulebook states "Frame and engine cases must be from the same production model motorcycle"...
CCS / ASRA EX # 23
2012 Ducati 848 / 1100 Conversion     2005 Ducati 749RS
2006 CCS Florida Thunderbike Champion (AM)
2008 CCS LW Supersport National Champion (EX) 2nd in 2011 and now  2012....damn you Mavros!

roadracer162

You think I could get away with that with my FZR? 600 cases are the same as the 400.
Mark Tenn
CCS Ex #22
Mark Tenn Motorsports, Michelin tire guy in Florida.

Gixxerblade


roadracer162

Quote from: Gixxerblade on November 01, 2011, 05:45:29 PM
A 560 would work.

I definitely think so using the 600 bottom end.
Mark Tenn
CCS Ex #22
Mark Tenn Motorsports, Michelin tire guy in Florida.

apriliaman

I dont know much of the difference between 1st gen and 2nd gen SV engine,except if everything is as produced,the clutch covers are very different and that is easy to see.I dont know about the rest. Some people do have a 2nd gen engine converted to look like a 1st gen and use 1st gen electronics and clutch and carbs.
Winner of at least 50 CCS Lightweight Regional Championships
3 National Championships
Top 10 plate holder since 2006

proechel539

It is a superbike class with the only motor limits being 650cc, so what does it matter what Gen SV motor you have, it's irrelevant.
Darrell Proechel
CCS Ex # 76
02 SV-650, 06 GSXR750
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