Race Fuel

[stumpy]

I am thinking of using VP Ulitimate 4 or something close for road america for a couple extra horse, does anybody use it without remapping or tuning and do you get any gains? I have an 01' f4i, with a power commander.

[racer865]

While dyno tuning my sv for daytona I decided to test vp ultimate 4 against 93 octane pump gas that we were using. Without changing anything except the fuel I picked up 2.5 hp on a couple of runs and 3 hp on a couple more runs. We were using a dynojet dyno and the bike is a 1999 sv in supersport legal tune. I have had other people tell me they tried same thing and didnt pickup any power gains. Your results may vary. Hope this helps.

[Pierre - Team PMR]

I have an 01' f4i, with a power commander.

So I take it that you figured out your problem with your commander after BFR?

[StumpysWife]

PC has a new one on the way!  Whooo hooo!  Apparently, the old one had a "bug".  They were way cool about it.  See ya at RA!!! :D

[Super Dave]

But, will 2.5 or even 10Hp really make a big difference in your lap times, Stumpy?

I sell Power Mist.  I can give you some guidelines, but, bottomline, I wouldn't worry about it right now.

Back to HP...

Go back to Blackhawk and put me on an R1 or a GSXR1000 against me on my R6.  MAYBE I would go a half second faster or a tiny bit better.  That's probably 30 to 40 more HP.  Buy some Vesrah brake pads.  That would be better spent money.  (When the fuel guy tells you to do something else...)

Make sense?

[stumpy]

sure, but I figure on all the straights at RA. All the H.P. will help. I guess I still need to get the gearing setup too :-/  Any Ideas...

  Oh and my power commander is coming back on Tues! (as lips the wife said) :-X   It had a virus I guess... I should of put the bike in the trailer at Blawkhawk It was taken advantage of of out my sight ;D and yes it does feel dirty :o

[Super Dave]

Gearing?  Seat of the pants, stock up front and one bigger in back.  That's what I'm gonna try.  I think I had something similar to that at RA on my GSXR600...and my ZX6R's.

Drop me an e-mail about what you were using for gearing at BFR.  We can talk about some suspension stuff.  

Pierre, you too.  

[MightyDuc Racing]

SD...been wanting to try Power Mist, but even with the racer program they sent me, the shipping kills me.  Any ideas?

[Super Dave]

Shipping is the killer, yes.  

I usually get half a truck load at a time.  Only way for me to do it.  Even then, it does actually cost me a little over $1 per gallon to get it.

Get some friends together and get four drums, that would be a pallet.  That makes it somewhat reasonable.  I think Rick has a different shipper for Florida, but I might be wrong.

[r6_philly]

how many gallons does a usual race weekend require?

What do you think of practicing with pump gas and race with race fuel, would it somehow mess up your rhythm?

[Super Dave]

How much does it take?  I though you raced?

Mess up things by changing?  For me, it would.  I have no depth perception, so I really rely on a certain rhythm about a track.  I can get stuck in a rut at times, especially after a school and then trying to re-do my rhythm.

Some can do it, but if it's a good fuel, it should change the RPM from which you can start your exit from the corner.  

[Steviebee]

hmmmmm Dave on an R1 .. Vs.   Dave on a R6 ????  


Stumpy,  sup man.  Got word today my wheels fixed !!  yesss ..  now just gotta put the rest of the bike back together.

I've been thinking aobut race gas.  (Only cause i had a couple of top 10 spots.)  My motor is all stock, only thing done for any extra power is a full yoshi exhaust (came with the bike).   Race gass and a PC might make it possible for me to pass the fast guys on the straight.   Maybe ??  It should help lap times a little bit.  few tenths ?  maybe  .5 secs ??

But I dont think it will help much on the rest of the track.  or help me finish better ?  at least now.  I've got a lot to learn about racing/passing and stuff.  Pluss its 40 bucks instead of 8 bucks for regular gass.

Ofcourse the guys running race gas are laughing to themselves right now !! hehe heheh.   IKE, Benji, Josh ??  You out there ?  Are you guys running to good stuff ??