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Started by trace33chargers, February 06, 2010, 01:12:04 AM

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backMARKr

Funny thing is....put Ed on a bone stock SV and he will likely still destroy most of the grid....
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Eric Kelcher

Much easier from  racer and and enforcement point to tell you what things could be checked then to say what won't be checked. 
Eric Kelcher
ASRA/CCS Director of Competition

benprobst

Quote from: Eric Kelcher on February 08, 2010, 04:34:37 PM
Much easier from  racer and and enforcement point to tell you what things could be checked then to say what won't be checked. 

Riiiiight. CCS SS is one of the silliest damn things in roadracing. Under your reasoning you might as well just make it all superbike, because then everyone will know they can do whatever they want!
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Cowboy 6

No reason to get personal. Eric is a good guy and just trying to help.
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benprobst

Quote from: Cowboy 6 on February 08, 2010, 09:40:00 PM
No reason to get personal. Eric is a good guy and just trying to help.

There was nothing personal about it. Unless he owns CCS and wrote the rule, which he doesn't, then there is nothing to take personal offence about. I just think the logic couldn't be further from reality when it comes to clarity on rules for racers and builders.
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backMARKr

Quote from: benprobst on February 09, 2010, 09:40:45 AM
There was nothing personal about it. Unless he owns CCS and wrote the rule, which he doesn't, then there is nothing to take personal offence about. I just think the logic couldn't be further from reality when it comes to clarity on rules for racers and builders.

Did Dan Jasa sign in under Ben's account? :biggrin:





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benprobst

Quote from: backMARKr on February 09, 2010, 09:53:14 AM
Did Dan Jasa sign in under Ben's account? :biggrin:







Hey, hey, hey. Im a jerk but not that big of a jerk! But seriously, absolutly nothing against Eric, I like Eric and he does a really good job helping us racers out here and at the race track. But to say its easier to enforce and follow rules with enormous ambiguity and giant grey areas as opposed to very black and white rules seems a bit strange. Not to say the black and white rules are a bit exclusive and a pain in the ass sometimes.
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skiandclimb

Speaking of Danny Yaya- anyone know if he's racing this season?
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Eric Kelcher

Thanks I don't take it as personal attack. I can understand both sides of the issue one side by face value seems like it would be easier and cheaper to competitors with only dozen or so things that can be changed but in reality you have hundreds of other things to inspect in a tear down, vs a list of dozen or so things that have limits placed on modifications that would be checked.

Maybe the list of restricted items in SS should be expanded? In the time I have been involved in rules committees I can't recall ever seeing a request to add more restrictions to SS rules 
Eric Kelcher
ASRA/CCS Director of Competition

backMARKr

Quote from: skiandclimb on February 09, 2010, 01:58:08 PM
Speaking of Danny Yaya- anyone know if he's racing this season?

Nope....huntin' and fishin' last I heard.

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skiandclimb

Quote from: backMARKr on February 09, 2010, 04:20:40 PM
Nope....huntin' and fishin' last I heard.



I know! WTF? He went all "Grizzly Adams" on us!
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twilkinson3

So for clarity sake - if Trace were to take the bottom half of a 2nd gen bolt up the heads et al from his first gen and replace or remove the generator and run carbs - it technically wouldn't be legal? and I'm pretty sure you couldn't tell the difference visually or hp/torque wise with the above being true - just asking for future reference if I blow up teh ss motor...again....